Plot Question re Cutting

[moog5050]

So one of my plots that I crushed with glysophate before planting looks like a magazine cover for plotting.  The second plot which I did not have time to spray before tiling and planting looks like one would expect - a great mix of brassicas, clover, grass and thistle.  The thistle is coming in pretty thick.  I know the deer are using that plot already daily.  But, the question is whether I should cut it.  The brassicas  and clover are still shorter than the thistle.  I suspect on the highest setting, I could cut the thistle with some damage but minimal to the brassicas.  Worth cutting, or just let it be and learn the lesson to always spray first?  I don't care if its pretty as long as it remain a draw this season.  I am a bit concerned that the thistle will crowd out the brassicas as the thistle is growing faster than the brassicas.

[LET EM GROW]

The thistle will hold your plants back from their full potential of its as thick as you say. I wouldn't mow it, your tires and or blades will severely stunt or kill your brassicas unless they are a grazing type. You could spray with Clethodim(illegal in NYS) to kill grasses and bot broad leaf plants... ex.. clovers(legumes)/brassicas.  Unless you think your brassicas wont perform, id spray it with Cleth(illigal in NYS) but who would know lol. Or mow it in a couple weeks if your not concerned for your brassicas. 

[landtracdeerhunter]

This late in the game, I wouldn't worry about it. To late for thistle to mature and the deer will eat right around them.

[moog5050]

7 minutes ago, LET EM GROW said:

The thistle will hold your plants back from their full potential of its as thick as you say. I wouldn't mow it, your tires and or blades will severely stunt or kill your brassicas unless they are a grazing type. You could spray with Clethodim(illegal in NYS) to kill grasses and bot broad leaf plants... ex.. clovers(legumes)/brassicas.  Unless you think your brassicas wont perform, id spray it with Cleth(illigal in NYS) but who would know lol. Or mow it in a couple weeks if your not concerned for your brassicas. 

Does the cleth kill the brassicas?  Not sure I understood your suggestion.

[moog5050]

1 minute ago, landtracdeerhunter said:

This late in the game, I wouldn't worry about it. To late for thistle to mature and the deer will eat right around them.

They are mid shin now.  Deer are eating around them.  There are spots loaded with thistle, but some areas are clear.  I am inclined to leave it also.  Just annoying when comparing the two plots.  Lesson learned.

[landtracdeerhunter]

I have some thistle in mine. Don't hurt a thing unless they go to seed. Eliminate next growing season.

[G-Man]

walk out with hand sprayer and round up and just dribble a bit on the thisle doesnt take much. no need to mist a few drops will kill it  just mix a 4 % instard of 1.5 or 2 that ypu would normally

[moog5050]

1 minute ago, G-Man said:

walk out with hand sprayer and round up and just dribble a bit on the thisle doesnt take much. no need to mist a few drops will kill it  just mix a 4 % instard of 1.5 or 2 that ypu would normally

Good idea although I might be too lazy to spot treat each plant if I am honest.

[G-Man]

good exercise i do it where its heavy with weeds i dont want an isolated plant or two isnt a problem but where its thick

[LET EM GROW]

CLethodim only kills grasses. Does not kill broad leaf plants like your brassicas or clovers/legumes. So if sprayed with Clethodim, your brassicas and clovers will not be harmed whatsoever(as long as your tank is properly cleaned before hand) and your thistle would die off. But cleth is illegal in NYS. Though lot of people still use it. 

Thistle is easy to kill, agreed. Id either let it be for the year, and get a good kill on it next May.. or spot spray it with some gly in a hand sprayer then seed it with some wheat/rye/oats etc..  to fill the plot back in.

I dont like to use much for chemicals besides GLY.

Also, once your clovers mature some, they can take a decent dose of GLY and survive.. 

[moog5050]

4 minutes ago, LET EM GROW said:

CLethodim only kills grasses. Does not kill broad leaf plants like your brassicas or clovers/legumes. So if sprayed with Clethodim, your brassicas and clovers will not be harmed whatsoever(as long as your tank is properly cleaned before hand) and your thistle would die off. But cleth is illegal in NYS. Though lot of people still use it. 

Thistle is easy to kill, agreed. Id either let it be for the year, and get a good kill on it next May.. or spot spray it with some gly in a hand sprayer then seed it with some wheat/rye/oats etc..  to fill the plot back in.

I dont like to use much for chemicals besides GLY.

Also, once your clovers mature some, they can take a decent dose of GLY and survive.. 

I didn't realize thistle is considered a grass and would be killed by cleth.  I recall when it was legal not too long ago.  I agree, I will take the easy approach and not do anything or perhaps spot treat next time I am at the property if I feel ambitious.

[LET EM GROW]

Ok nevermind I mentioned all that about Cleth and thistle, Cleth wont kill Thistle. LOL I got my plants all mixed up.  My apologies first day back to work from vacation. That was bad... I believe roundup/gly is about all that will kill Thistle .. a little embarrassing there. 

I'd let it be, or just weed whack it down as low as possible. Thats that hardest part about not spraying first. In the same boat with milkweed .. forgot to spray a 2nd time in 1 plot before seeding my bulb blend .. 

[Five Seasons]

is it a small enough plot that you could weed wack the thistle? at least to stop its progress? Or as suggested, they make the contact round up gel. Would be even better to just walk though and kill the thistle with that stuff.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Roundup-Precision-Gel-5-oz-Weed-and-Grass-Killer-5200301/206929581