Nytracker Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/guns-new-york-city-supreme-court-state-rifle Just read this on fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 This has been reported in various pro-gun venues for quite some time. NYC changed the long standing rules it imposes on handgun owners soon after they learned the SCOTUS would hear the case, indicating they KNEW the law was unconstitutional all along. I'm not sure what changes were made that make the law constitutional now and justifies the city's request to have SCOTUS not hear it. I hope the court still wants to hear the case so it can also rule on some of the other NYC rules that are not constitutional. It really aggravates me that these laws stay on the books for decades, with innocent people being ruined by them, before the SCOTUS finally steps in to stop it. Washington D.C.s unconstitutional handgun laws were being used to ruin gun owners for 30 years before the laws were finally ruled unconstitutional. Even then, D.C. didn't abide by the ruling and continued to harass gun owners for years with impunity. Elected officials who do that should be charged with felonies and jailed. If they violated any race based civil right like that, they would be. It also saddens me that many NY gun owners are not even aware of this development. We lose our rights when we don't keep up with government infringement, or tolerate government tyranny with illegal laws. NY gun laws are as bad as they are because too many NY gun owners tolerate these laws without any resistance. If a gun owner is not actively fighting these gun laws, they are part of the problem. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 District and appellate courts both ruled in favor of the city. Once the Supreme Court granted review of the case, however, New York City amended the regulations to allow residents with a premises license to transport their handguns to another residence within or outside the city and to gun ranges outside the city. Now the city argues that the case is moot because the changes gave members of the shooting club everything they sought in the lawsuit. The members disagree, maintaining that the case is not moot because the Supreme Court still could rule that the original transport ban was unconstitutional. Such a ruling would prevent the city from changing course in the future. The New York case does not present the justices with the opportunity to rule on broader issues that have percolated in the lower courts since the Heller and McDonald decisions. Nevertheless, the fact that the justices will hear the case is a step in the right direction, hopefully providing lower courts guidance they sorely need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I pray that NYC looses big. I hate the gun laws we have down here 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, ATbuckhunter said: I pray that NYC looses big. I hate the gun laws we have down here Ditto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 The hope of the pro gun side , and fear of the antis , is a ruling that extends well past NYC and changes / removes the way licensing and restrictions are done nationwide . Rattler is 100% correct ,this case and its implications have been well known and covered for months in the gun rights community. The news has been reporting that we may not get what we want because of questions asked by RBG and others, about mootness , well they were never going to vote our way anyways . Roberts is the wild card . https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/detailed-analysis-of-new-york-state-rifle-pistol-assn-supreme-court-arguments/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 There are plenty of other issues with NYC gun laws that should have been taken to the supreme court before this one. I highly doubt the court will overturn any of those other more relevant issues while addressing this one. As has been said, NYC has already changed this law knowing that it would be overturned, so end result will be that nothing else will change. It takes years before the supreme court even wants to hear a case, so unfortunately it will be a LONG wait before NYC gun owners see any significant changes in their gun laws. Hell, NYC residents have needed a gun permit ($180 every 3 year renewal) to even possess a rifle or shotgun since the late 1960's, so how long has that law stood without it being taken to the higher courts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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