fasteddie Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Man, I tried to read all the posts in this thread...I tried. So, after all the BS on the first few posts, this is the deal---> Guy might have shot a tame deer legally. ok. By Jove , I think you've gawt it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Die thread Die! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You are all so quick to get off on horn porn but when there is something that you should all take a stand for as being wrong you do not want to be inconveinenced. Maybe some one out there will get the point that its not at all about what is on their head but how one chooses to chase. If the story was even remotely legit I would go away quietly, but I will be here a while ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwhite Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If someone from the EAB program arrowed the deer would that have been ok? Taking this buck is kind of like trying to bunt for a base hit in the 9th inning of a perfect game. Cheesy play but legal. If the hunter feels it is a trophy then so be it. May not be to most of us but this shouldn't be a debate any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 You are all so quick to get off on horn porn but when there is something that you should all take a stand for as being wrong you do not want to be inconveinenced. Maybe some one out there will get the point that its not at all about what is on their head but how one chooses to chase. If the story was even remotely legit I would go away quietly, but I will be here a while ;-) Its not really an issue any longer IMO, DEC found it to be a legal kill, thats good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 The fact that the DEC has no issue with the chain of events makes the issue even bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Place is crawling with deer who cares? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 If my family was buried there, I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyhunter Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 just this past year I was bowhunting in Illinois and a guy shot a buck that was not that big and then had an offer to hunt for another with a family members tag. Now if you go shoot a booner with that tag you then have to decide for yourself when you look up at that trophy on the wall if you are proud of what you did. While this case is different as it was deemed a legal kill, nevertheless, the "hunter" now can look up at his trophy and decide for himself if he is proud of this "accomplishment". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 If my family was buried there, I would. Honestly, there is nothing that even said the guy killed the dear on top of or near any grave sites. If you look at the overhead, there is open land there with no graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Actually if you look at the overhead there isn't a spot in the cemetary that is outside the 500' rule. He must have had permission from surrounding property owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) This isn't romaticized back woods deer hunting, this is inner city deer population control. If you dont like it then don't do it. But some people dont mind it. It is what it is. I would rather have that deer shot over my grave ( though there is no proof that happened ) by a bow hunter, than some car run it down or some government sanctioned hit squad bait him and shoot him in the head. Edited February 27, 2012 by erussell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It was shot in a grave yard - that is fact. That it wouldn't bother you is fine. But someone hunting in a cemetery where my family is had better worry about things other then legalities. It disrespect - plain and simple. Not to mention the damage a hit deer could do on a death run. Legal or not, it will not be tolerated around mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 This deer was killed as an act of horn lust greed end of story. Do not try to right size this tragedy by saying it was an act of population control for the village of Cayuga height becuase even greedy sunsabitches know that to reduce the population you need to kill the does and a large number of them not the larger bucks out of the hurd. Nash has made no effort to kill any does in or arounfd Cayuga Heights, why would he, he does not even eat venison. The 3 Deer he killed prior to this monster were all bucks in and around the town of Ithaca and none of them very far from his vehicle. I would not define walking up to and killing an animal in this setting and killing it hunting. And yes it has been confirmed to have been killed in the Cemetary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Gotta be honest HT sounds like you have a huge case of sour grapes with this guy. If you have all this proof then stroll into the police and DEC and present it. If the guy is that big of an outlaw get him locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 How can you not have a beef with some one that does this ........ DEC has been provided all this information and they are not able to legally prove any wrong doing. However with that said when you heard the words come out of his mouth that do not match the story provided to the DEC what are you to believe? When you heard the stories of the other bucks being killed prior to this deer ever being killed. I know for a fact that a lot of these monster bucks go down by less than legit methods or stories behind them. And next thing you know they are posted on a website and everyone ooohs and aaaahs over them. Knowing differently I must come out and say BS. I will not remain quiet. This went down bad and I will keep preaching that until I can not any longer. Why? Becuase the way this magnificient animal was killed goes against absolutely everything I believe in. If any one on here still considers Matt Nash to be a hunter I am personally ashamed of ever calling myself a hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You obviously don't believe it enough to go sign a sworn statement at the dec police claiming what you heard. Maybe you should reconsider your "beliefs". What you call evidence is actually heresay. I have no dog in the fight, but your whining is getting annoying. I need more facts before I pass judgement on the guy. you may be right, but prove it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Not whining freind just stating the facts as I know them.... BTW, local DEC was not willing to pursue this issue any further than the initial survey done at the cemetary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 All you are doing at this point is bashing someone. As far as i know, the guy isnt even a member here to defend against your accusations. Enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophy taker Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 All you are doing at this point is bashing someone. As far as i know, the guy isnt even a member here to defend against your accusations. Enough. WELL SAID ...WNYBUCKHUNTER... ENOUGH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTRedneck Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 "Long ago, Hunters were the unlikely vanguards of progress. Today, we are protectors of tradition and conservation.Thankfully, we still have some wild places left. So while at times Id like to say let the hunt begin, right now Ill say, let the hunt continue." Interesting quote... In my eyes providing people the truth about this tragice situation is in fact taking a step towards protecting tradition and conservation. I am not bashing an individual his actions clearly are taking care of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Sorry, but what you are doing is bashing. This forum is not here for you to carry out your personal beef with someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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