Deerthug Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I just read this article on Daily News. NY State senate is attempting to revive a law that was shot done years ago by the republicans requiring manufacturers to microstamp bullet casings so police can track down illegal guns. I'm all for it. Any thoughts? http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/york-state-senate-democrats-a-shot-law-cracking-illegal-hand-guns-article-1.1020915 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooffer Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) No your not, but if you are I hope you forget to recover all your spent shell casings at the range. Because I would love to see the headline one day if it became law. "NY Hunter can't explain how his shell casings were found at Hempstead Crime scene" Edited February 11, 2012 by wooffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah that wouldn't be good. But I collect all my casings even when on my stand or blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTG3k Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thats IF any gun company spends the money to make guns like this. And then if any New Yorkers decide to pay a ridiculous amount for a handgun. Illegal guns wont be microstamped, cuz criminals dont give a crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooffer Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 That's actually the goal, to prevent the lawful ownership of guns and ammunition. The guise of catching criminals is always used instead. Sadly gun laws don't prevent criminals from commiting crimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooffer Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah that wouldn't be good. But I collect all my casings even when on my stand or blind. What would happen if someone swiped a few rounds when you walk up to change your target? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 What would happen if someone swiped a few rounds when you walk up to change your target? You got this all planned out don't ya? What do you look like so I'll know to take my rounds with me when I do go change it. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooffer Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Don't worry I am one of the good guys, but I know how the bad guys think. Bottom line, gun control advocates are not about personal safety, but people control. Those in power cringe at the idea of an armed people that may one day oppose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah, that's a brilliant idea, let's spent the money we don't have for another useless and expensive solution. How many crimes were solved with a help of CoBIS? Yeah, exactly...!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 How practical is that technolgy? I understood that it wasn't all that reliable and would add considerable cost to firearms. But then maybe that is the real purpose of such a requirement. Much like most gun laws, their only real effect and purpose is to add harrassment or cost into gun ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) See the other thread about this http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/10/microstamping-threat-back-in-new-york/ Edited February 11, 2012 by Grouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Early Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Look for the bad guys to be using revolvers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobC Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I can't imagine that there is a very high percentage of crimes committed with a registered gun that isn't stolen in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTG3k Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I can't imagine that there is a very high percentage of crimes committed with a registered gun that isn't stolen in the first place. And the ones that are like that are very easy to figure out for the cops. Like a wife shooting her husband as he sleeps. With microstamping the cops will see that its registered to him and will assume he shot himself 5 times as he slept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillhunter Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Okay you go to the range with your new microstamping gun and leave some brass behind. Someone picks it up, reloads and commits a crime with his old standard gun leaving your brass behind. The police come to the door looking for you and your gun. What do you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 It's amazing to me that any gun owner can't see through this nonsense for what it is and what the repercussions will be if it ever passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Ok well... after second thought and reading the above posts I'm against microstamping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Okay you go to the range with your new microstamping gun and leave some brass behind. Someone picks it up, reloads and commits a crime with his old standard gun leaving your brass behind. The police come to the door looking for you and your gun. What do you say? Well, if you reload you should be good to go, you deprime first so all printed info is gone since it was printed on the primer...you should be good to go there. But there is so many holes in this its not even funny....change the firing pin and you good to go, file it off and you are good to go, spread someone else's brass at the crime scene and you are good to go....I can go on and on...this is one big non-sense....period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I still don't understand exactly how the micro-stamping works. Does it mark the primer? Actually, the identifying marks would have to be on the firing pin. That's a pretty small area to be getting very many identifying numbers on. I would guess that the printing or whatever must be pretty darn tiny and the engraving for such a miniscule series of numbers must be pretty state-of-the-art. How long would you expect such delicate markings to stay legible during the repeated impacts? Are they going to require test firing of each weapon and inspection to ensure that each device is functioning adequately? How about the jillions of guns already spread through the public. Are they going to demand retrofits? I'm thinking the whole thing is pretty much just somebody's pipe-dream. My thinking is that it is hoped that after such a law is passed, very few, if any, gun manufacturers will be able to comply. Too bad for the gun manufacturers .... eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Doc, that's the point. It doesn't work. It has so many flaws, it can't be considered a crime fighting law. It is a gun banning law. All firearms manufacturers would look at the expense of complying with this nonsense and decide not to sell guns in NY State. They would have to, because the price of these guns, if they were to make them, would be twice what a regular gun costs, meaning they wouldn't sell any in NY State anyway. This stupidity is right up there with the "smart gun" scam of yesterday. Democrats hate guns and are always looking for crazy ways to stop their sale, possession and manufacture, while still saying they support the 2nd Amendment. What scares me is people actually believe them when they say it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillygunns Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Microstamping works by having the firearm's serial number on the firing pin in extremly tiny numbers. A microscope will be needed to read the stamp on the primers of the shell casings. It has already been determined the stamping fails to imprint a ledgable mark a large pecentage of times. Each firearm would be sold with a sample casing that would be logged by the police in some form. The plan was shot down the first time due to the cost of tracking every firearm sold with this microstamping. It is my opinion that any new firearm law will cost the tax payers to much to be effective. I am against any new gun law a think the ones we have are to much. The only way to stop crime is to ensure everyone has a good paying job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Rich people, and people with good jobs also commit crimes. The best way to stop crime is to insure swift and severe punishment for commiting one. Like a .45 caliber slug right between the eyes of a rapist, mugger or murderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobC Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 If everyone had a gun I'm sure that would take care of a lot of the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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