Yup...I know what you mean. I once joined a hunting club up here and they had a large lease. I helped build the cabin and bunk house,but as soon as hunting season opened,most of the members were more interested in drinking, playing cards and just getting away from their day to day life at home. Getting anyone up before daylight was a joke. So, this prompted me in finding and buying my own place. Now I have it all, 100,000+ acres at my doorstep, good fishing at the end of my road (Moosepond, St.Armand) and I get up and go out before daybreak!! No more waiting on others to to join me, unless I invite them!