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Couldnt tell you unless I saw what they look like downrange. Cant tell much from glare.

Awesome, congrats!

Got a feeling they'll bring him out in a body bag. I'm sure he'll turn the gun on himself. Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk 2

what is almost no scent to you, could smell like a bottle of cologne to a deer

shotgun... no "Assault Weapon" huh... I thought the wackos all use assault rifles now a days.

generally you should loosen them as well or it'll grow into the tree

Funny thing is that I started hunting because I liked shooting guns at the range so much. Now I wouldn't trade bow hunting for anything. I find it much more exciting than gun.

I wasn't serious about ducking the arrow - just making a point that that action is instinctive (as you point out). However, I do believe that deer can learn and reason (according to one definition - capacity for consciously making sense of things). What you call conditioning can be interpretted as reasoning. For instance, a salivating pavlov's dog may not be thinking or reasoning, but a dog that rolls over on command has made sense of the fact that if he rolls over on command he will get a treat - that's not instinctive as dogs don't understand that when born. I believe deer have the same capacity. Understanding cause and effect is a form of reasoning - again, not at the same level as humans or most humans.

Right Shawn, I'm seeking attention by laughing at paranoid rants insinuating government plans to attack the citizens of the US. Get a grip.

Absolutely, the reaction to an arrow is a instinctual act. Actually it is a reflexive act that occurs way too fast to be anything that is thought about. It all happens much like we flinch at a loud unexpected noise. I don't think anyone is arguing that there are not instinctive and reflexive reactions that play a large part in a deer's life. Right from the day they are born, there are defensive acts that are born in (intinctive) behaviors. However, there are a lot of things already noted in this thread that definitely are "learned" behaviors, and learning does require some rudimentary level of intelligence. It cannot be denied that most animals have the ability to learn (although I have had some pets that made me wonder about that ....lol) and that is something completely apart from instinct. And per the original post on this thread, I have to wonder just how intelligent these critters really are.

ahhh, time can be a pain in the butt, till you run out of it.

Homemade wine is the way to go, made annually in my basement. Lol

I'm currently trying to bring an old mature orchard back to life. On 5 acres I have probably 15 apple trees. 2 of the mature are still producing fruit. They're very high and the deer eat them as they drop. 3 are newer plants and harvestable for human consumption and I plan to do that after they're sprayed. The rest are shaded by newer trees and hampered by crowding and dead branches. I started the project last weekend. And have 4 of the mature tress trimmed and have cleared some surrounding trees for light. I don't know how well they will come back, and 2 of them had live branches but hollowed out trunks. I'm really just hoping they produce some fruit, even if it's not up to human standards. On 2 other trees, I've topped them and am focusing on some shoots. Hoping in 2 or 3 years they'll fruit. I'm not investing a ton of time this spring as I want to see how well the trimmed trees recover before I start on the rest. the fruiting trees last year were magnets some I'm really crossing my fingers. If it fails, I've still cleared out some space for vegetation and bedding. Plus some extra firewood. I'd like to add 4 more trees in an open spot as well. Thinking plum, peach and pear.

One thing to consider..If you have personalized engraving, like your name, initials, etc. it may adversly affect the resale value of the firearm, unless you happen to be Teddy Roosevelt or Jack O'Connor...

They do that sometimes when they are approached by anything they perceive as danger. Other times they run. Its instinct, not intellect.

BOW

As far as the courses go , most of it is safety and 8 hours of that is a bit much . The instructors have to drag it out to make it last 8 hours and repeat everything several times .Why not just cover Archery , Gun and Crossbow in one course . When my youngest son wanted to bow hunt , he took the Archery course . About 2 weeks before bow season opened he applied for his archery license but couldn't get it because he hadn't taken the gun safety course . He had no intention of gun hunting but that didn't matter . He was up the creek ! I guess it would be up to the DEC to decide what would be necessary for "training" .

I really wish they would just do away with it all. Pretty pointless and just a pain to most people.

We would rather die on our feet then live on our knees. -FDR

I have had to load a deer into a car before and seen it done many times. I think it is great that this guy was more worried about getting the deer home than messing up his new benz, but why wouldn't he put it in the trunk?

Reminds me of when I got rid of my truck and had an Impala SS for a short period of time. I had a tub I called the buck tub. Got it at Walmart for like $10 and it fit perfectly in the back seat. I think I put more deer in the back seat of that thing then I did women!

Ask The Field Archer for some tips !!

I'll watch it if he's from NY.

Heres the pic.