Lifer in the upstate NY area...mainly Syracuse and the Tug Hill, for the past 33 years. This year was what an average year used to be like...granted, the Tug did get a memorable hit a couple times, but overall the season totals were barely a historic average. The past twenty five years have been pretty wimpy. That said, I got snowed out from my last week of Northern TIer deer hunting. I couldnt get to the camp! I was just glad to see the deer herd overall came through in good shape. A year ago though, we moved to Cortland, and as we expected, a mild winter compared to what we were used to.