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SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Gov. Andrew Cuomo has agreed to suspend plans for background checks for ammunition sales in New York and allow internet sales of ammunition, changing part of the NY Safe Act, according to state Sen. James Seward. The changes are part of a "memorandum of understanding" struck between senate Republicans and Cuomo, a Democrat, according to Seward. It wasn't immediately clear if Assembly Democrats backed the changes. "I think it's very significant," Seward, R-Milford, said this afternoon. "This is a banner day for law-abiding gun owners in New York." It also wasn't immediately clear when -- or if -- Internet sales of ammunition would resume in New York. Seward said this afternoon it would happen "in a reasonable amount of time." But a spokesman for Cuomo said the Safe Act suspensions would not change state laws regarding Internet sales. "No provision of the SAFE Act –including the ban on Internet ammunition sales -- has been rolled back or altered due to this memorandum," Cuomo spokesman Rich Azzopardi said. "This simply acknowledges what has been said previously -- the ammunition sales database will not be prematurely introduced until the technology is ready and it does not create an undue burden for business owners. " And a gun-control advocate said she saw the change as more of an acknowledgment of the challenges of setting up the system, rather than watering down the law. "I just think this is going to be a delay in implementation," said Leah Gunn Barrett, director of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence. Seward defended the unique agreement -- which virtually shut out Democratic lawmakers and circumvented the legislative process. When asked if he thought it would set a precedent for other lawmakers creating other deals with the governor that Republicans might not like, Seward said: "That's not going to keep me up at night." A spokesman for the Senate's minority leader, Sen. Andrew Stewart-Cousins, was outraged at the two-way deal. "I guess we don't have the toughest gun laws in the nation anymore," spokesman Mike Murphy said. "This two-way agreement is outrageous. I'm looking forward to the MOUs on the minimum wage, paid family leave, protecting a woman's right to choose and the numerous other things the Senate Republicans are blocking." Seward noted that Assembly Democrats already agreed to cut money to build the database from this year's state budget. "There was slight movement in this direction in the budget," Seward said. "We're just going the extra mile with this MOU." Cuomo did not sign the MOU. It was signed by Senate Majority Leader John Flanagan and New York State Director of Operations James Malatras, a top Cuomo aide. Assault weapons in NY: What's legal, what's not?David Simmons, president of the Onondaga County Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs, explains what AR-15 rifles are compliant with the New York Safe Act. The agreement stops the state from spending money developing the background check system, which was never implemented. New York State Police Superintendent repeatedly told lawmakers that the system was far from creation since the Safe Act was signed in early 2013. Sen. Michael Nozzolio, R-Fayette, said in a statement the background check system could have cost as much as $100 million. The agreement doesn't erase any possibility of background checks on ammo sales in the future, Seward noted. But, to restart the work on the database, the Senate leadership would have to agree to change the MOU. "That day will never come," Seward said, adding, as long as the Republicans maintain control of the state Senate. Seward also noted New York has had a shortage of ammunition supply since the Safe Act was enacted. Opening up Internet sales should help, he said. This marks the second time Cuomo has agreed to changes to the Safe Act, a set of stricter gun laws passed a month after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. In 2013, the governor agreed to exempt retired police from some restrictions in the gun laws. Flanagan won key support from some Upstate Republican senators, including Seward, in his recent election as the top Senate leader. Flanagan beat out Sen. John DeFrancisco, R-Syracuse, for the top post.
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You guys do have a point. I'm just having fun with it. I will say this though. You have know idea how good you have it here. Trust me, Elmer J. Fudd, king of all trolls...
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Any Non-white Members?
ELMER J. FUDD replied to Curmudgeon's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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I remember last year there was a lot of talk about not buying a license due to AR's, Cuomo's diss, and the surge in lifetime license sales in prior years.
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Happy B-Day to our resident camera expert
ELMER J. FUDD replied to moog5050's topic in General Chit Chat
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Congratulations Wooly.
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And the entire roster... http://www.ussoccer.com/womens-national-team/latest-roster
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To any guys that won't watch it, I present to you, #2 Sydney Leroux.
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My neighborhood is a war zone right now. I like it! I don't have anything this year. Kinda weird.
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I guess they were all LEO's? Who knows.
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SAFE ACT Registration numbers ......
ELMER J. FUDD replied to JimMac's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/237510/state-doesnt-appeal-foil-case-gun-stats-released/
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And here some more details: Since New York’s SAFE Act gun control law went into effect in January 2013, a total of 23,847 people have applied to register their newly defined assault-style weapons with the State Police. Those gun owners have registered a total of 44,485 weapons have been registered. Those statistics, which had until Monday been shielded from the public, were given to Rochester-area lawyer Paloma Capanna, who earlier this year won a lawsuit seeking to release the data. It had been withheld following an earlier request under the state’s Freedom of Information Law. With State Police declining to appeal the trial court ruling, they provided Capanna the numbers late Monday. “I’m grinning from ear to ear,” said Capanna, whose case had become a cause celebre among Second Amendment supporters and gun enthusiasts who opposed the idea of having to register their weapons. She had filed suit on behalf of Rochester radio host Bill Robinson under Article 78, a proceeding that allows legal actions against the state. She argued in State Supreme Court in Albany County that there was no reason the simple number of registrations should be kept secret. The plaintiff’s FOIL was submitted on Jan. 27, 2014, and prompted the standard letter from a State Police Records Access Officer noting its receipt and promising another response within 20 days. But then the State Police fell silent, ignoring two letters from Robinson sent in April and June. In July, he filed an appeal based on the contention that the non-response was a denial, and the judge agreed. One of the highlights of the SAFE, or Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act is a ban on ”assault-style” weapons, which are defined as having military-type features such as a pistol grip or flash suppressor. Weapons such as civilian versions of the M16 military rifle, or the Soviet-designed AK47 are popular examples of the guns banned under the law. Gov. Andrew Cuomo pushed the bill though at the start of 2013, just weeks after the Newtown, Conn. school massacre. People who already owned assault style weapons, though, were grandfathered but they were supposed to register them with the State Police in April 2014. Critics believed that was an intrusion into their privacy, and as the logistics of tracking the registration became clear, many predicted that only a handful of people would actually register their guns. Capanna said that appears to be the case, with fewer than 45,000 weapons being registered. While there is no firm count, observers have estimated there could be hundreds of thousands or even a million assault-style weapons in New York. In Connecticut, which later passed a similar registration law, 50,016 weapons have been registered. But with a population five times that of the Nutmeg State, fewer weapons have been registered in New York, suggesting widespread non-compliance. Additionally, local police including several county sheriffs, have opposed parts of the SAFE Act and suggested that enforcement of the registration component was not a priority. The trial court decision, from Acting Supreme Court Justice Thomas McNamara, directed the State Police to release 15 categories of information related to the state registry, including detailed geographic breakdowns (including county and ZIP code) and the number of applications as opposed to actual registrations. There is also a breakdown of pistols, shotguns and rifles that were registered.
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Less than 5% registered. Lol. With the State Police declining to appeal an earlier trial court decision ordering them to release the data, the number of people who have registered assault style weapons under the SAFE Act is now public. “I’m grinning from ear to ear,” said Rochester lawyer Paloma Capanna, who successfully sued on behalf of a client for the information. The bottom line is 23,847 people since the 2013 law took effect have applied to register assault style weapons. A total of 44,485 weapons have been registered. Here’s a breakdown by county of applications to register assault weapons since Jan 15 2013: Albany 484 Allegany 83 Bronx 35 Broome 351 Cattaraugus 137 Cayuga 194 Chautauqua 311 Chemung 195 Chenango 116 Clinton 203 Columbia 124 Cortland 97 Delaware 96 Dutchess 731 Erie 1,593 Essex 107 Franklin 113 Fulton 102 Genesee 131 Greene 113 Hamilton 21 Herkimer 140 Jefferson 291 Kings (Brooklyn) 54 Lewis 60 Livingston 128 Madison 160 Monroe 1,408 Montgomery 87 Nassau 2,755 New York (Manhattan) 1,640 Niagara 492 Oneida 451 Onondaga 916 Ontario 260 Orange 985 Orleans 87 Oswego 281 Otsego 126 Putnam 411 Queens 109 Rensselaer 334 Richmond (Staten Island) 52 Rockland 451 Saint Lawrence 259 Saratoga 573 Schenectady 274 Schoharie 78 Schuyler 49 Seneca 69 Steuben 208 Suffolk 3,865 Sullivan 229 Tioga 122 Tompkins 134 Ulster 463 Warren 181 Washington 124 Wayne 244 Westchester 1,498 Wyoming 84 Yates 87 (Source: New York State Police
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moog5050......What Are YOU Doing Today????
ELMER J. FUDD replied to Lawdwaz's topic in General Chit Chat
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Just gonna post the same thing. Friendship NY. Escaped inmates sighting.
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The Charleston Church Shooting
ELMER J. FUDD replied to EspressoBuzz's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
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"Cleanin' this gun..."
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Bye Felicia.
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border patrol checkpoints
ELMER J. FUDD replied to ncountry's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
I just make funnier sounds when I'm being tazed. That's all. I like your thinking though. Going full Chuck Norris would be cool too. Cool story bro.