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Crows Wing . The cam caught the tip of the wing as it glided by

NC here is one last post i will make to you and anyone else on this subject . Watch this video . It explains everything about permethrin . Where it came from and how it works. It addresses the non existent health risks also. Happy hunting this fall everyone !

Actually NC , its been at least 25 years I have been using it. I think around the mid 90's . At first it was all aerosol cans that were available. I didn't like them , but it was better than having the little bastids crawling on you. The spray bottles came shortly after and I never looked back. The company told me that once a tick gets on your treated outfit for 15-30 seconds it can no longer bite you. It neutralizes their system and basically turns them into a zombie. I have watched this show after I walked through a patch of high bush blueberry bushes. I looked down and had 5 freakin ticks on my outfit. I watched them and like clockwork after 15 to 30 seconds they started lifting their legs up like they were walking on hot coals. So they started to aimlessly scramble around. They all jumped off within 2 minutes. They probably died within 30 min . Gotta love being out hunting knowing you are a tick killing machine ! So if somebody asks you " Get Anything ? " You can always say ' No Deer , but I did kill 100 ticks "

Bugs , when I talked to the company I asked that question on how long is the shelf life . they told me it stays full strength for 5 years. Then it will start to degrade . with them selling tons of it to the military , I dont think sitting on the shelf is an issue . Even Amazon runs out of Sawyers spray bottles now and then around springtime and hunting season . They always get more in , but sometimes you have to wait a week or two.

I have used the Martins 10 percent that he mentions in the video. It did work great. But here is a little important info that this vid doesn't mention . I have always heard that any concentrate above 10 percent is either all or partially formulated as " petroleum based " You DO NOT want any of that ! You will smell like a diesel engine. It is NOT unscented . I know that most of the 10 percent concentrates are water based. Never buy the petroleum based. I have no knowledge about the 13 percent brand he is mixing . It would take you at least 15 times washing your outfit in degreaser to get that smell off. And you might never get it all out. The 10 percent Martins is now triple what I paid for it. Still economical but not as much . And you are risking what else they are using as inert ingredients in the concentrate. Some of those are NOT Scent Free . Dont forget those 10 and 13 percent mixes are made to use in barns and on farm animals. They dont care if its not scent free ! It is not designed to spray on clothes ! I know the Sawyers is mixed with all Scent Free ingredients. Although I have used one bottle of the Martins in the past , I will stick with the Sawyers . One last thing . DONT buy the aerosol cans. The permethrin is scent free. But the aerosol isn't. It has a little chemical smell that lingers for a while. Plus sometimes the can runs out of aerosol , and the can is still 1/3rd full of permethrin .

I think you are panicking for nothing NC . I have been using the same Sawyers .05 unscented mix for at least 15 years. Been spraying it on any clothes I use to go in the woods for summer checking cameras and cutting up fire pit wood, hunting in the fall, and and a very light spray for winter. I have no concerns. I spray it both in and out . For summer I wear a very thin coverall with a pair of jeans shorts and a tee shirt underneath. So the coverall is rubbing on my skin. Never a tick bite , No rashes of any kind , or any other issue . I actually put a heavy spray on that coverall and let it totally dry for a day. I know tons of people doing the same for hiking , checking cams , and camping . Never heard of any issues from anybody . The campers I know not only spray their clothes , they spray the inside of their sleeping bags . No concerns or ill effects from anyone. And its been years they have been doing this. A couple guys I know actually wipe a very light diluted mix on their dogs . No issues there either. But dont spray anywhere near a cat where they can get it on them while its wet. They could get sick from it. Its fine after its dry. I actually have sprayed our cats bed and dried it . Found dead ticks in there from them dragging them in when they go outside. Never affected any of the cats at all . Once the spray is dry , everything is good to go . One last thing . I spoke to the company a while back. One of their biggest clients is the military. Permethrin works on all kinds of critters. Sand fleas in the middle east , and all kinds of swamp bugs in the jungles. Do you think for one second they would let our soldiers use that stuff if they knew it was harmful to them ?

You got to love Fenix Ammunition Co !

RC i'm with Al on this one . I have the propane version instead of the fuel version of the same Coleman stove . Work great for us cooking venison stir fry on both tailgating at football games and in the ice shanty ice fishing . We have percolated coffee with no problem on it. Maybe the propane version would work better at temp control because the pressure in constant ? But I see no reason why the fuel version wouldn't work either .

Looks like the Mus stepped into " The Red Zone " and got hammered ! SPLAT !

Wherever you read that was blowing smoke . Why would Browning stop making the best semi auto rifle ever made . As far as a Browning Bar 243 they offer it in the Browning Bar MK3 - Ovix , the Browning Bar MK3 Stalker , and the Browning Bar Mark III They discontinued offering the 243 , 7mm Rem Mag , and the 338 Win Mag only in the Browning Bar MK II Safari . As far as I remember I dont believe they ever offered the 243 in the other Browning Bar DBM models https://www.browning.com/products/firearms/rifles/bar.html?q=&prodLine=RIFLE&productionType=Current Production|Exclusive Availability|Shot Show&subbrandDesc=BAR&sortOrder=default

I'm definitely checking the box and voting that its an " Ugly Gun " . But hey , thats why they make so many different kinds ! So there is something for everybody !

Way To Go Big Guy ! Nice Birds !

Wont hurt to try a turkey choke to see how much better it would be at that range or if you have a 35-40 yard shot

Al , me looking at all this from a NH point of view , they are flinging all this bullcrap at law abiding citizens in NYS is strictly all about the money ! All these worthless fees are filling some politicians pockets ! Why do you need a pistol permit in order to buy a rifle ? They are nothing alike . Nobody has ever asked me for my pistol permit when I buy a semi auto rifle or any rifle . Sounds like the politicians just creating another roadblock .

Happy Birthday F L !