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It seems to me that the best way to create some new additional anti-gun laws is to keep intimidating people in this stupid and needless way. What is the point of this kind of demonstration. Frankly, I would also get a bit nervous about seeing people acting in this way in a store.

Cute little piggy's. These are the critters that are starting to invade NY. It is going to put a whole different feel to that walk to the bowhunting stand in the dark each morning.

It really doesn't bother me if her parents have the means and resources to provide her with high class hunting opportunities. It doesn't bother me that she may eventually get her own TV program. I still have the right to not watch it if the content doesn't interest me. Her program would likely be as legitimate as 99.99% of the nonsense that passes for hunting shows today. Who cares? The real thing to take from this story is the dedication and strength of the anti-hunting/anti-gun forces and the fact that their influence is growing daily. The other day on Animal Planet channel, I saw a recruitment advertisement by the Humane Society that went on for so long I was beginning to think it was an infomercial. These people are well financed and getting to be very influential. Don't be worrying about some little girl that has aspirations of being a hunting show host, and concentrate on how we are losing the PR battle in a big way.

It's just some more of that "anything goes" attitude that anti-gun forces live by. Take from this the fact that they will stop at nothing to achieve their goals. Yes, this one left them looking quite stupid, but it won't slow them down a bit. And yes, even with these blunders, they still continue to make headway.

I'd definitely like to. I could stand to lose a few pounds and it wouldn't hurt a bit.

And why would anyone care? Is somebody keeping score?.....lol.

Yeah, I would like to see this thread take off with some recommendations and assists as to how to thin out these anti-gun New York legislators and send that all important message from gunners of "Don't Tread on Me".

VJT- I do not hate you at all. I just think you are an arrogant individual consumed with imagined self-importance and desperately looking for attention, but one with nearly no substance or useful direction beyond the constant whining and complaining. You can't hate someone for that. Maybe a bit of sympathy and perhaps a little concern as to where your phobias and paranoia might take you. It may be a bit irritating, but certainly nothing that gets to the level of hate.

Ha-ha .... playing with words. You really aren't all that good at it. Also, I hope you will not take too much offense to my doubting your credibility on judging intelligence. There is nothing in any of your posts that would make anyone believe that you are much of an authority in that department. Your little tirade about Conservatives vs. Liberals has certainly missed the mark by a mile. You have absolutely no idea what my ideology is and have stupidly made some bogus assumptions in that area. I have been a registered conservative for likely more decades than you have even known what the word means. I completely reject your coupling of a very legitimate ideology (Conservatism) with some of your wild ranting that tends to give the legitimate Conservative movement a bad name. The Conservative Party is a legitimate part of the very government that you hate. There is no one in the Conservative Party that endorses your style of extraction from the government. We are people who work from within the system that you hate so much. Your Terry Nichols style of rhetoric has the capability to destroy the Conservative movement. The sweeping statements that you and your buddy try to peddle here and the annoying level of arrogance that you display while offering nothing positive to offset your aggravating whining, irritates the hell out of me, especially when you now try to couple that nonsense with the legitimate representatives of the Conservatives. Frankly it is becoming tiresome and if you are indeed associated with the Conservative party in any way, I have to tell you that you are a complete embarrassment.

Yes, hunting is controversial. But that doesn't mean that we have to go hide in the bushes. If she has any intestinal fortitude at all, she will brush off these clowns and carry on like they simply don't exist. Since when do we yield to public pressure. Doing so only encourages them.

State Assemblyman 131st District: Brian Kolb ....... Good Guy. State Senator 55th District: Ted O'Brien ....... Bad guy He really has to go. Replace him with Rich Funke

Does any of this really surprise anyone here? We are under attack by some very well financed and powerful organizations who are winning over many converts with each passing year. I know that we like to laugh at their ridiculous causes and claims, but whether we want to believe it or not, these people are growing in power, both financially and legislatively, and there will come a day of showdown, and I can't guarantee that we will survive it all. They have emotion on their side and we have facts. Which one of the two do you really think will prevail?

Well, that certainly is a wonderful speech. Totally devoid of substance but very long on whining. Hey, that's not a problem, I can whine and complain right along with the best of them. But I do understand that some point all the whining just becomes meaningless noise and at some point, right or wrong, you really do have do your best to accomplish something or at least try to do something (and whining is not "doing something"). But back to your claim that the U.S. government is your enemy, I have to point out that old saying that "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" and so I am guessing that many of the enemies of the U.S. government are your friends. I was just curious as to which of those enemies you align most closely with. I know that you claim to have all these friends who are "patriots in America" who apparently share your hatred of the U.S. government. By the way how has that association been working out for you .... lol. I know of many others who share your hatred. Some we have seen in the news. And a lot of them also have labeled themselves self-styled patriots. Understand that I have no illusions about all things done by the government as having pure and honest motives or intentions but when you start using words like "enemy", you automatically put yourself in a very large and inclusive league of characters that most of the time definitely have no use for constitutions, freedoms, or the well being of this country's occupants or values. Oh and by the way assuming you still vote (that may be an incorrect assumption), I have to point out that you too are a member of those "complacent morons" that you label the American electorate. So while you are out there complaining about the American citizenry, understand your inclusion in that group as well. And from what I have seen in your posts so far, I have to say that those whose entire substance is mere pathetic whining and complaining with no action or positive direction other than flight from inconvenient situations, truly do fit that "complacent moron" definition.

Kills, butchers, grinds-up and cooks all in one bullet. The perfect caliber......lol

I have to wonder ..... If the government is our enemy, who is our friend? Communists, the Taliban, or just who do we align with? Are the militias our friends? Which ones of those are we supposed to trust and align with? Do we now pal-around with terrorists? Do we now begin trusting one wacko after another in hopes that eventually we will get lucky and find someone with a "better" idea that we can hang with. I don't see the government as being a friend or foe. They simply are the tool of organization that our system uses. But when we start calling our government an enemy, then it is quite likely that suspicious but intelligent people may begin to wonder just exactly who we consider to be our "friends". Seems like a pretty logical question.

I have no idea what would cause a crossbow bolt to not enter a target in a straight head-on fashion. But even though you seem to be getting consistent contact with the bullseye, I can say that it likely will cause penetration problems. I would guess that it is something that needs an answer and a fix.

It appears that each municipality has to blow a fortune with these expensive experiments and has no way of learning from the experiences of others. My attitude is, let the majority rule. If they hate hunting more than expensive landscape damage, auto/deer collisions, and hazardous tick-borne diseases, then great. Let the idiots rot with the consequences of their own ignorance. It is exactly what they deserve. The DEC and hunters should simply back away from the situation and let nature take its course, providing yet another laboratory example to display the catastrophic results of these foolish people.

It could be that the guy rents the entire property (residence and land). I could see this kind of thing happening, with the landowner trying to collect twice on the same piece of land.

I was almost always driving my 40 miles to work in the dark, so I became pretty good at spotting deer before any collision could occur. However there was one morning when way up the road, I watched the headlights of an on-coming car blink as the guy nailed a deer. As I approached, I could see a deer flopping in front of his headlights. So I pulled over to see if I could be of assistance. Before I could get out, the deer got to it's feet, ran way out in a hay-lot in a big circle and came right at me. Bam! ..... right in the side of my passenger side door. The poor old Datsun took a hell of a hit and the deer bounced off and ran away. The car wasn't too bad off, but looking at the site on the way home in the daylight, I did notice a nice outline of the car in rust on the shoulder where I was parked. I had one other occasion where I stopped along the road to look at a nice buck in a group of five. Eventually they all scattered, but the buck ran right at my Honda CRX. He nailed me in the side of my passenger side front fender. He backed up and then jumped over the windshield and went on his way. So I don't hit deer, they come after me. I did hit a pig once and killed it........lol.

I would love to see pictures of some of these camps.

See that is the problem I have with paying good money for hunting rights of property that I don't live on. It seems to me that your options are non-existent. How do you enforce trespass restrictions when you don't live on the property or have some trusted person who lives there or very, very close to the property? It's hard enough when you are there constantly. I could probably say with a fair amount of confidence that this one guy is not the only one that hunts there. He's just the only one that you happened to have run into so far.

Ontario County passed the law last year and we have Canandaigua and Geneva. That really made no difference. What you need is some pressure from your local gun advocacy groups and some political interest. If it can here, it can be done in Genesee County as well. It just takes somebody to push it.

We can posture and put up the brave face, but the truth is that when the game cop or other L.E.O. sees you out hunting or target shooting with your unregistered AR, you too will meekly hand it over when ordered to do so. Explain to me what other options you will realistically have. All this defiant Rambo talk is just a bunch of damn foolishness. And by the way, when you are convicted of that felony, you will also be handing over every other rifle, pistol, and shotgun from your home as well (talk about playing into the hands of the anti-gunners). It may be time to start getting serious about legitimate, responsible ways to fight this law instead of being drawn into this movie-set fantasy that we all know ends badly for those of the Bonnie and Clyde mindset.

What is the white thing on the right side of the pond?

Well, I certainly do understand why people would rather not be named on some list of pistol owners, but Right now, at this time, I do see one useful purpose that this list could and should be put to. Astorino should be getting his hands on that list and setting up a very convincing mailing to all of those people explaining how their vote for him is absolutely essential. At least have that list perform some useful purpose. I wonder if that has occurred to him yet.