Doc

What makes us so stupid that we can't just take a glance to our north and take note that Canada tried the registration of long-guns, and eventually had to give it up?

I have asked this question a few times already and just like this comment, I don't get much of an answer that means much. I may have worded the question slightly different when I asked what good it did to own a gun that you never dared to take out of the house, but it all comes down to the same idea. So anyway, using the scenario quoted above of being caught out hunting with an unregistered gun, let me lay out the possible outcomes. You can simply understand that they have been busted and then either comply, or accept the penalty and probably the loss of a very expensive weapon,. Perhaps you might then engage in a very costly legal battle and probably lose. The other option is to immediately level the gun at the officer and then enter a life as an armed fugitive. What a laugh. The option of arguing with a LEO, or asking him about his guns is not an effective option, and you are not going to talk him out of an arrest. So you have just two options: comply or make the matter much worse with armed conflict. Unless you are some kind of nut-case, I think the armed conflict approach probably is not very realistic ..... lol. So, all you that claim that you will never comply, exactly which option would you really choose in the scenario of the confrontation that waterweasel laid out here? I'm guessing your only recourse is to not take that gun out hunting, and maybe even build it into one of the house walls never to be seen again.

There are established procedures and wildlife rehabilitators for handling such situations. These people ignored the law. I have no idea how much they should have come down on these people, but I do understand the necessity for such laws. Every year people are trying to "help" what they think is distressed, cute, wild creatures, whether they really need help or not. So the government agencies make it illegal to turn wildlife into pets. That sounds reasonable to me. Now these people had a case where the deer was injured, and we can only take their word for how bad the injury really was. But there are legal ways of handling those situations too, which apparently they decided to ignore. So, I'm not really going to waste a whole lot of sympathy on them.

That's a real tough situation, and pretty hard to put yourself in their position. Depending on what percentage of the livlihood these shows provide them, there may be a certain amount of panic showing through in their comments. I mean, if somebody were to pull the rug out from under my means of making a living for that year, I might have some strange reactions too. I suppose it's one thing if this is only a hobby-style side activity for them, but if it comes down to putting food on the table and a roof over their head, I probably would react with a bit of bitterness myself. Not knowing what they really had at stake there I think I will with-hold condemnation. It's hard to put myself in their actual position. This may have been a business risk that they didn't (couldn't) see coming, and they are simply blaming the wrong people.

Wow! talk about a short notice. I suppose it probably should be noted that this sounds like an information issuing session, and not an information gathering session. It doesn't sound like an activity designed for receiving opinions or arguments. Am I wrong on that?

Ok, think about it .... given the media's track record, if you were running a gun show would you cheerfully turn these guys loose with a camera and full permission to interview any loser they can find that can give the biggest black-eye to hunters and gun owners. Can you imagine how that would come out in 90% of the cases. She may have had nothing but the purest intentions, but that whole industry has built up a reputation for for being anti gun, and for doing whatever underhanded, tale-spinning tactics that it takes to do a hatchet job on gun owners. No there is no need to be rude, but there is reason to be firm and not willfully providing them with the tools and opportunities to do what they have shown themselves to be so skillful at. At the very least, I would have demanded known references and adequate credentials. How about this ..... It seems fair that all media-types be subjected to a back-ground check before they can be allowed to enter with a TV camera......lol. Just kidding, but the point is that we have a lot more to lose than win when it comes to reporters that we have had no track record on. What a playground that would be for an anti-gun TV reporter to make her next promotion off the backs of unsuspecting gun show attendees. No, keep it civil, but definitely keep the guard up. If we seem to be a bit paranoid about the news media, it's only because with very rare known exceptions, we have got good reason to be. I'm afraid it reasonably is "guilty until proven innocent" when it comes to the media.

8' high? ..... lol. Has anyone ever seen a pig jump 8' in the air or even anywhere's near that. Have they learned how to use a pole vault?

I have to admit that it is truly impossible to determine at first glance what is the intention of any representative of the media. There are a lot of them that will be smiling to your face while they prepare to stick the knife in. The media has made a complete science of taking a single sentence and spinning it into a dozen different meanings. It's done every day. The media has moved from reporting the news, to making the news. So if some are a bit skeptical or guarded, it is only because the media has trained us to be that way. There are certain members of the media that have earned gun-owner's respect, cooperation, and trust through past columns, the rest are going to have to earn that trust. It's unfortunate, but it is a bed of their own making.

Has anyone figured out how much stockpiled ammo is enough? Is there anyway to figure out what a lifetime's supply is? I just finished an inventory of my reloading components and my live rounds for all my guns. I've decided that I guess I have enough. But when it comes to the hoarding mentality, I was just curious as to whether people think that they need warehouse full of stuff, or exactly where and how do they draw the line? Are we arming for casual use, or some form of civil war? I'm kind of ensuring enough quantities of ammo for my normal casual use (hunting, personal protection, and occasional target) throughout the remainder of my life. If civil war breaks out, somebody else is going to have to supply the ammo .... lol.

Now there would be a great test of a hunter's abilities. Within NYS borders, target and go specifically after wild feral hogs and be successful. Anybody who can do is definitely "The Man" (Or "The Woman" depending on the situation).

There are pigs in Rochester too, and sometimes I really do think that they are multiplying. Perhaps that is what they mean by a "breeding population". I'm sorry ..... I couldn't help myself.

Your example with the Corvette and other products is just a long way of admitting that there is such a thing as inflation. But that is not a product of the investment community. In fact, if you are to stand a chance of beating inflation, the market is the only way to do that. Like I said, I have absolutely no other income other than the market, and I have been living off that with the net worth being much higher today than it was back when I was working. That is to say that I have been withdrawing my annual expenses and still the value of my portfolio is rising. If I look at the charts and graphs in that article, you have to admit that that would virtually be impossible. And believe me, I am not the only one doing this .... lol. My investments in my post-401K days have been in the same kinds of mutual funds that my 401K was invested in (a well diversified portfolio), and it has been growing in a very substantial way over the long haul. Far better than if I had simply stuffed my savings under my mattress .... lol. Now I will admit that there is smart balanced investing, and wild speculative investing, and each has opposite results. But that is not the fault of the system, but rather the faulty use of the system. I don't think you are aware of how many people use the stock market successfully to fund their retirement. It really has become the mainstream method of financing retirements. Yes, there are all kinds of gold peddlars and those hawking precious metals for their own personal gain. And they have plenty of motives for conjuring up phoney stock market charts and graphs to bolster their sales. But don't be fooled. Those shysters will lead you down the golden path to financial ruin.

You are absolutely right, there is no need for us to be divided on this issue. The NRA is trying it's best to keep us united and on point relative to fighting more useless anti-gun legislation. Unfortunately there are a few that simply don't get it and keep on working to disrupt the unity that most of us are practicing. Shame on those who would fight against unity. We really don't need that kind of undermining. Liberal gun owners had better wake up and take a check of what's happening instead of trying to demonize all those that value the 2nd Amendment and argue for its preservation.

So does a 12 guage slug .... lol.

These kinds of issue seem to come busting onto the scene with a whole lot of fanfare and then quickly fade into oblivion. It's kind of like the CWD activity. Anyone hearing anything about the NYS epidemic lately. All the dire predictions and outbreaks kind of evaporated. I suspect the wild boar situation will to. The schock value has already dissipated.

I just went through my ammunition and reloading supplies to see where my inventory might be a little weak. Then I'm going to be placing a pretty sizeable order to fill in any shortages that I might find. You never know how long before they figure out a way to eliminate that supply, I want to be well-stocked when they do. And whether it is Midway or some other favorite supplier, I would suggest that others do the same.

It's always good to hear of new recruits. Hoefully, you are beginning a lifelong hobby that will help you enjoy the challenges and education in what nature has to offer.

Ok, the troll had his fun with us. He posted his garbage just to get a rise out of as many people as possible (that's what trolls do) and we all fell for it ..... lol. It's not the first time wztirem has done this and it probably won't be the last. I know it is just a case of a troll being what a troll is .... nobody could be that freakin' ridiculous. Ha-ha .... good one wztirem.

I think there have been some actions lately that will galvanize the gun owning community to finally see the need for organized action. Some of the membership gains in recent weeks indicate that. It all has come too late for the presidential election, but there may be an awful lot of politicians that will be shocked in their attempts at re-election. Perhaps, in the long-run, Cuomo did us all a favor with his extremist set of gun laws. He and Obama just may be serving as the catalyst to focus a very severe backlash on the anti-gun candidates.

Well, It's a very interesting article, but I have to wonder how it is that my entire retirement living is being funded by the stock market, and I am living quite comfortably. And I'll bet I am not the only one doing that. Over the years I have already drawn out much more than I ever put in (fees, taxes, and all), and have had my accumulated retirement investments continue to grow. How does that happen if there has been zero growth over the decades?

Not to waste a whole lot of time with this mindless liberal drivel, I'll simply say that it appears that some member of the anti-gun lobby has obviously infiltrated this forum with an agenda of spewing the party line of his cohorts. It was hardly worth the time wasted in reading it.

It is true that the sound of a pump shotgun in the dark has got to send the fear of God through any burglar and probably would send a crook diving through the nearest window no matter how many stories up he was ..... lol. However, let's change scenarios to 3 or 4 armed intruders engaged in a home invasion. Maybe add in a condition of being sky-high on drugs into the situation. At that point, I would guess I would want the AR-15 with the highest capacity clip I could stuff into it.

I did see on TV that there is a process going on now that is adding some amendments to the law to make up for the screw-ups caused by their hell-bent haste at jamming it down our throats. The example cited was the fact that they didn't bother to exclude law enforcement from a lot of the restrictions. One has to wonder what other little goodies they are cramming in under the guise of "amendments" to the law.

Ha, it has all gone quiet as one might expect. The mainstream media has made all the anti-gun mileage out of it that they could, and the only things to report now would be the pro-gun responses and plans for legal responses. They don't really want to give any of that air time. Now all the attention is moving to the federal version of screwing law abiding citizens.

It all sounds easy enough, but just think about the precision of placement that would be required. After all, how far is the range of those sensors. If they cover too much ground, every leaf and moving branch will set them off. If they don't cover enough ground you will have to have an amazing knowledge of exactly where they will be coming in. And if you know that much about exactly where they will be coming from, your own eyes ought to be able to cover those spots. I think it's an idea that sounds a whole lot better than it really is.