Doc

So, let your imagination run loose for a moment. What do you think hunting will be like 50 years from now? What changes do you envision as far as weapons, seasons, regulations, game availability, etc.?

That's the one that counts!

Many years ago (58 to be exact), I climbed the hill behind the house with a hammer and chisel and carved my initials and the date into a huge old granite boulder that some farmer from long ago had dragged over to the edge of the field. I'm thinking that some day somebody will run across that and see perhaps the only thing that is left from me ..... ha-ha. I picture them looking at this carving and trying to picture how that came to be there. It is kind of like an old beech tree about a 1/4 mile from my house that I call the initial tree. It is a huge twisted old thing that is about 4 to 5 feet in diameter and is covered with old initials. One of the initials is R.C.A. with a 1913 date. It is Ruby Allen from a family that owned our old homestead years ago. She carved her name all over the place in our old barn and apparently this tree got in her way too ..... lol. The lines of the letters had grown to about 1-1/2 inches wide, but the whole carving was still very readable. The entire surface of the tree was covered with the initials of a whole bunch of people (probably all neighbor kids) that left their sign of passing there for people of the future to read. Of course mine is there also from back when I was a kid. Today, the tree is dying and probably will be down soon.

That's amazing. The fantastic stone-work and the time and effort put into these structures is unbelievable. I do seem to remember an out-flow of water on one of them. Isn't it something how you can run onto so many things that are long-forgotten, but were so important to the individuals that put them there. It's a rare gift of historical minutia when you stop to contemplate the lives of the people that actually used the land, you can concoct some amazing mental images of these people who were born, lived out their lives, and passed without leaving a trace except for these random item scattered through the woods. One thing it always does for me is to put in perspective all those things that seem so damned important and earth shattering during our lives, and the fact that they too will all eventually fade into nothingness and of concern to absolutely no one.

The Iranians have had decades to buy, steal, and be given assistance as an oil-rich predominately war-trained entity. If we ever found ourselves in a situation of sudden government oppression, we will find ourselves without the war-focused infrastructure that Iran has. As far as our technically trained civilians, of course given enough time they could figure out these things by reverse engineering them. And then perhaps the opposition will allow enough time to train operators. And then maybe they would let you take the one unit that you captured on-site to a location where you could operate it for a minute or so before they blew the unit up along with any personel near it. Another thing to keep in mind is that we are getting real big in the area of unmanned warfare. That is where the focus is today and will become the wave of the future. Think about that for a bit when you are talking about a civilian uprising. Look, I can daydream right along with the best of you. But when the thinking gets out of the comic-book stage and enters a bit of reality, there is nothing wrong with understanding the realities of your situation. Less time fantasizing and more time thinking of real solutions is probably a lot more sensible. There may be preventative measures that we should be focusing on right now rather than trying to find comfort in fantasy. It is a lot of fun trying to write the next movie depicting how our fantasy war with the government will go. But we have real problems facing us that will need real solutions. coming up with these feel-good solutions is great for entertainment, but right now we should be focusing on political solutions to avoid the apocalyptic scenarios that we are entertaining ourselves with. I keep getting the feeling that there are way too many who are saying, "Look at us. We are invincible. Never mind all that political stuff, If anything ever happens, we'll just smear up our grease-paint, grab up our deer rifles and take care of it". I'm simply saying, don't get all caught up in that nonsense. There are some real political actions that are required, not this useless fantasizing.

Look, don't get mad at me for adding a little common sense into the conversation. If you and others choose to view yourselves as some kind of Rambo-types, don't let me interrupt your fantasies, but I will tell you that only a tiny number of people are savvy enough to operate most of the military weapons of the day. And I am honest enough to admit that if you walked me up to one of those drones, or the patriot missle system, I would definitely not be able to operate even if I had an operating manual in front of me. I can't picture too many of us that could jump in a tank and even get the thing to move. That's not condescending .... that's just plain old horse-sense.

It is a fact that short supply and high demand will be reflected in the prices when all this craziness shakes out. Both the manufacturers and the retailers understand that. Neither the retailers or the manufacturers can do anything about the demand, but they sure do have control on the supply side of the equation, should they choose to use it.

Lol .... It's real hard to imagine that goofy-looking piece of wood being mistaken for or intended as any form of a rifle type stock. My comment about the illegality of "mean and dangerous" looking firearms was a facetious remark relating to the current criteria for determining what guns should to be outlawed.

So what's your best guess as to what these things are. I can't even imagine what the purpose could be.

Funny stuff .... lol. But you didn't finish it: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take the bipod off the bow ..... Well, that rifle and that crossbow have one, but I can't find it on the bow. Take the stock off the bow ..... That's funny, I don't see that either. What no trigger or safety on this "bow"? ..... Oh, that's right there's nothing to mount it on. Ok let's benchrest this bow on that fallen log over there. .... What? You can't do that. That's too bad, I can do that all day long with my crossbow and rifle. Love this nice 4x scope. I wonder how I can stick that on that bow over there .... sure would be nice to have a stock to mount that on. I don't understand why they have come up with all these neat accessories for crossbows and nobody has figured out how to attach them to a bow. Geez, they've had these things for rifles for years. What? Draw that bow while there is actually a deer there? .... Hah, don't have to with my crossbow. Pretty much like my rifle. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well anyway, I hope you didn't mind me adding a few thoughts on the end of your list. It just didn't seem quite complete. Now back to the guys arguing about their dictionaries.

Ha-ha .... Would anyone know which end of the system to sabotage, or even have a clue as to what to do with a captured one ..... lol. Yes, this stuff makes great fictional movies. Heck, all we need is a couple of Rambos to take on the government. Throw in Bruce Willis and Jean Claude and how could we lose ..... lol.

I think I wouldn't be at all surprised if Cuomo doesn't have a battery of lawyers busily writing up an alternate law just in case their current law does get shot down. It probably will be introduced the same day that the court renders it's decision. The only thing is that I would guess that the next vote may go a lot different than this midnight raid on the Constitution did.

And I repeat, the next conflict will not be muskets against muskets. Kind of different when you are aiming your 30-06 at a battery of Patriot missles, or an unmanned, armed, drone aircraft. Do you see a "slight" difference? I do.

Actually, I didn't notice anything .... lol. It really doesn't excite me to see two guys playing word games, and I have stopped paying a lot of attention to either side. I could care less who thinks a crossbow is a bow or not or who can prove that their source is better than the other guy's. Who really cares? It's absolutely irrelevant. It's definitely not worth trying to make enemies over.

And here's one of the many things that stink about the whole situation ...... Cuomo is fighting all these lawsuits with our own tax money. We are paying for the defense of the law that is screwing us.

It's that old story of voters simply following whatever their family traditionally voted. Record and idealogy be damned. It's a whole lot easier to just walk into the voting booth and vote for the same party year after year. Why confuse yourself with actual issues and voting records and all that other painful stuff. There can be no other way of explaining it.

This is really getting stupid ...... My source is better than your source nyah-nyah-nyah-nayh nyah. What is the matter with you people? I know .... He started it!

I just got done checking Midway out online. Looked up a good test item ..... Hornady .22 caliber bullets (bullet , as in the reloading component). They are still listed as out of stock and not on backorder. So, even though the NYS gun-grab is not even in effect yet, they still are making no effort to sell ammo or fill in any shortages. I'm getting the opinion that gun and ammo manufacturers and suppliers are using this crises as an excuse to build up the prices that they can charge. Just like oil companies who have perfected the art of creating shortages and one crises after another, firearms and ammo vendors are building their own crises to serve the same purpose.

It's amazing how far Liberals will go to defend their amazing blunder of voting for this guy. I suppose they are also supporting Cuomo and his midnight raid on the Constitution also.

Afghanistan is a country with a long and continuous history of warfare and turmoil. Those citizens of that country were already battle hardened, not a couch potato softened population such as ours. Also, the insurgents were trained by neighboring countries (China and Pakistan) and bankrolled with billions of dollars from America, Great Britain and Saudi Arabia. They were not characterised as "farmers with hunting rifles". I watched video of the government and their personel aiming fully automatic weapons at the mid-sections of U.S. citizens as they forcefully disarmed them in Louisianna, and I don't recall any follow-up stories about mass desertions, or any armed citizen rebellion occurring in the aftermath. That one historical episode spoke volumes of just how prepared and equipped to go up against trained military styles of opposition. It just is not going to happen. I'm thinking that we have to start taking these movies of American uprisings for what they are...... entertainment and fiction. This is not 1776, and any conflicts with governments are not muskets against muskets happening from behind trees.

I have been to that same exact spot a bunch of years ago. It's along a hiking trail that we took. However I can't tell you what that thing is. It seems to me there were some other parts of these kinds of constructions located there also.

I think you would probably wind up with some pretty painful and severe dents in your face.

So the idea is that all that excess wood around your wrist is supposed to reach far enough to tie your hand to your wrist. Well, as you can tell, I do not often shoot handguns. Probably a half dozen times in my whole life. Well anyway, I'm glad there is a practical reason for all that ugliness....lol.

Sure, and a lot of the ones he is resurrecting are so old, I don't even remember them. They're like brand new topics. That same scenario really works good on movies when you get my age. I've got a whole lot of movies that I know I have seen at one time or another that are just like brand new now. That really comes in handy when you've got HBO ..... lol.

I can't for the life of me figure out any sensible purpose for that wacked-out grip. What in the heck is all that extra wood about? Can anyone explain that too me? But anyway, it sure is a pistol. I doubt anyone could argue that. It appears to be a singleshot, so excessive magazine capacity doesn't seem to be any issue. I don't really undrstand why there is any question about it's legality. Sure it looks goofy, but it is not illegal for a gun to look goofy. It's only illegal if it looks "mean" and dangerous ....... lol.