Doc

There was a picture of this lady on TV, and I have to say that if ever there were telltale physical features that indicate the insanity of a bat$hit-crazy person, she's got it all.....lol. But then if it were generally known she was an animal rights nut-case, I guess that wild crazed look has to be expected and probably wasn't a real tip-off that she was a potential mass murderer.

I can fully understand how the pinkos of the left would argue against organized gun rights advocacy groups, but I see gun owners making that argument for them as simply being too cheap to put their money where their mouths are. There is only one way to fight the leftist gun-grabbers, and that is to support our gun advocacy organizations and provide an organized front. Why do you think the anti gun forces view the NRA as the devil incarnate? because when it comes to gun rights and 2nd Amendment issues, they are damn effective. I believe that the only reason we have guns in our homes today is because of the NRA. Why hasn't the NRA accomplished even more? It's because almost all gun owners are too cheap to part with the few dollars for membership. They would rather fraudulently pretend that as unaffiliated individuals they are really going to do something to protect the 2nd Amendment on their own. They are not really fooling anyone but themselves. They have decided to do nothing.

Does the world really need another law to force people to go through legal and bureaucratic hell just to own a gun? What's the matter with people that would make excuses for such citizen abuse?

Ha-ha-ha..... our Naples in western NY is still suffering from some pretty cold weather.

We have snow in the forcast over here on the west side of the state. And I haven't heard the phrase "above normal" with regard to the temperature in a long time. I want to go fishing for bullheads...C'mon...give me a break. Winter has been going on long enough!

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!"

Growing up on a rather remote farm location, I learned to entertain myself rather early in life and spent all my non-working time wandering the hills and simply observing. Then I got involved in trapping around age 11. That is when I really started learning to pay close attention to animal habits and movements. It also provided a lot of opportunity to observe potential prey animals for future hunting activities. Also, at a very early age, I got into archery and soon saw the hunting opportunities and possibilities. I subscribed to every bowhunting magazine available (it seems there were more of them back then). I learned a huge amount from those magazines.

What a great feeling it must be to know that you have spent your career doing a job of service for others. Congratulations and thank you. Now it is time to do some things for yourself.

Look, I would like to present a lot of bluff and bluster and pretend that I will hunt until they pry that bow or rifle from my cold dead hands ....lol. But there have been changes over the years that have hinted at significant erosion of my physical abilities. Yes at 74, I am still able to climb that old "killer hill" out back when I decide not to take the ATV. It takes a lot of stops along the way that are each getting a little longer, but eventually I make it. The climb is done a lot more slowly and with a lot more pain as joints and muscles remind me that time marches on. I remember when I used to still hunt for many more miles than I should have with absolutely no idea of how I would ever get a deer back home if I got one. Now, ATV access determines where I hunt. Sure, I can still drag a deer without the ATV, and even did so a couple of times this year, but I'm not so sure how wise that is anymore. Let's face it, the human body does have a finite shelf-life. We do what we can for as long as we can, but as I turned the corner on 70 and am on my way to the next decade, there are some doubts that begin creeping in and some realities that can't be ignored. The end is in sight, but so far I choose not to look. I have no way of predicting just when hunting will stop for me, but there are plenty of signs that it will happen some day and it may not be as far off as I would like to pretend. I can only say that I will continue as long as it is possible. It gets down to simply putting one foot ahead of the other and getting as far as I can go. It's my way of trying to cheat father time but we all know that it really is a losing battle.....lol.

Yeah, in spite of this stinking prolonged cold weather, yet another sure sign of the end of winter is all over my front lawn. Gobs of winter deer hair is being shed. I hope they know what they are doing ....... lol.

Do you think that weaponry technology has topped out and that everything that can be improved or invented has been improved and invented? I think that there will always be challenges that require some basic line that should not be crossed. Everybody thought that the idea of full auto weapons had been put to bed decades ago. And then some wizard came up with the bump stock. Another challenge not covered by current law. Is anyone concerned about armed drones? What law will cover that when they become commercially available? Yes I have another line drawn at remote controlled weapons. No, I don't believe that it is true that, "current regulations are sufficient to handle any technological advances that may pop up". No, we are not done with regulations on privately owned weaponry, and yes there will be things that come up that are not adequately regulated. And no, I am not afraid to do a bit of independent thinking on where I draw lines.

I must admit to occasionally getting overly passionate about some issues. Imagine having a political discussion with Hillary or Bernie......Ha-ha-ha. Could that drive you up a wall and into an absolute rage? I would say that when you commence a discussion about politics, or other sensitive issues, anything can happen. All people have an irrational spot when it comes from trying to change opinions that are diametrically opposed to our own. For me it happens quickly when I am talking with anti-hunters, or gun control advocates. I will say that it is very likely that he will calm down and resume your friendship at some point in the future. I guess I would suggest that you avoid any political discussions with him in the future ..... lol.

But the question was phrased specifically a bit more personal and individual than a discussion of what has historically been made illegal or heavily regulated. I was asking each member where they draw the line. I have heard some that would argue that even the heavy restrictions on full auto weapons should be dropped. Fans of bump stocks might be prone to argue this. There are those who think that any weapon that the military has should be available to citizens as a hedge against tyranny. We had a member a few years back that was a big fan of militias that made that argument very passionately. At the other end of the curve, there are those that would outlaw all privately owned weapons completely. And there are others that are pop up everywhere along that curve with every philosophy represented. The question posed by the original post was not what choices have been already made for you, but where each member personally would draw their own line. I'm not sure I am being clear, but it was not meant to result in a recitation of past regulation of weapons laws. Simply looking for an opinion of where people come down on the weapons regulation subject and why.

Yes, we are beginning to see the origin of youth being turned loose to serve as a tool of the left. Get used to it. The libs are on to something here. They have created an army of robots willing to do their bidding and the gun issues are only the beginning.

I can't help you out there. I know the Safe Act came up with a handful of feature identifications, and a lot of them had nothing to do with actual function. And when you get outside of legal interpretations and into individual definitions, the descriptions become more and more arbitrary, and emotional and random. I am now hearing some of these protesters calling for banning the mythical "assault rifles" AND all semi-automatic rifles. So apparently they have finally realized that functionally there is no real difference between what they call assault rifles and any of your run-of-the-mill standard hunting semi-autos. So the term apparently can be pushed and pulled and reformed to fit any gun that anyone might feel threatened by. It is useful to them not to tie down their definitions too tightly.

But the point is: lines are drawn and as technology evolves, new lines must be considered and perhaps drawn. My question is, and the point of this thread is, what are your specific criteria for drawing those lines?

You seem to suffer from a lack of curiosity and a desire to remain ignorant to life and practices that go on around you. Sometimes it is useful to ask a few questions about the beliefs of others. You just might actually learn something useful.

I guess it's time to try to answer my own question. I asked the question not fully realizing just how difficult it really is to answer. But I'll try to have a go at it. Yes, I do believe that lines have to be drawn somewhere. I don't want to see people messing around with tanks and bazookas and grenade launchers, personal package-nukes, etc. But in terms of firearms, my line is drawn at full auto weapons and above based on some sort of destruction rating scale that currently only exists in my mind. By the way that includes bump stocks. It is a judgment call and does become a bit arbitrary but in my mind there is a level of destructive power that I no longer feel comfortable turning loose on the general society without some very extensive heavy-duty regulations. And no it is not a judgment based on cosmetics as many people are trying to use on the so-called assault rifles. I think some sort of scale should be established that intelligently and logically rates the destructive power of anything that is classified as a "weapon". Perhaps that would put some logic into a subject that is now ruled by emotion. It would make such judgments a bit more logical because I think all sane people agree that there has to be a line drawn somewhere. We just seem to be having troubles determining where that line needs to be.

Would that include bazookas and full auto rifles and mortars and such? No limits at all?

I thought I understood a bit about deer bedding areas until I looked out the window this morning and saw a deer curled up in the middle of the front lawn a dozen yards or so from our front door ..... lol...right in broad daylight. They are like a whole different species at this time of year. What a difference from the animal I was hunting last Fall. Do they really have that short an attention span that they have totally forgotten what was going on just a few short months ago.

Just a wild guess, but I would assume that these would have the same shortcomings that the Browning Serpentine heads ( https://www.google.com/search?q=serpentine+broadhead&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=uJKt_15z6wOhHM%3A%2CKLKYx5fzMx4VmM%2C_&usg=__P_nrXjlBTG6d121tY7RlwX3s508%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEyMSt2YbaAhUMvlMKHUZRBh0Q9QEIKTAA#imgrc=uJKt_15z6wOhHM )had 30 or 40 years ago. Upon entry a big plug of meat fills the head and turns it into a "blunt" with severe loss in penetration.

Remember, the original question was: "Should all weaponry be totally free from regulation? Where do you draw the line (if you do)?".

Should all weaponry be totally free from regulation? Where do you draw the line (if you do)?

Do deer get a bit wacky this time of year? I plowed a wide strip across the lawn from the barn to the driveway, and it forms a small food plot of exposed lawn grass in the middle of my yard that is attracting six deer. The sixth deer, a rather small runt was trying to join the other 5 in the feast and was being driven off by one ill-tempered deer in the bunch. Every time it started to get close this bully would take off with head lowered in what looked like some kind of combat posture that sent the little guy fleeing. That happened about 3 times while I was watching. I'm not sure what would have happened if they actually came in contact. I'm assuming the bully was a big old doe because she had a fawn staying close with her. The last time she ran the other one off, she stood there and raised her head with her nose pointed straight up to the sky as if trying to catch a scent or something. It was a very menacing-looking gesture, and I have no idea what it meant in deer body language. I really didn't understand what any of the aggressive behavior was all about, but it did not have a playful look to it. Then there was another thing that I saw a bunch of years ago over by Honeoye at almost exactly this same time of year and almost the same kind of lingering winter weather conditions where it looked like two deer were having a fist fight. They both were standing on their hind legs, standing straight up, punching at each other with their front feet, and it looked like they were making contact. What gets into these critters when winter hangs on like this? Is it some form of cabin fever or something?

It is probably better for a few of us to remain to fight the good fight rather than all turning tail and handing over all the pinko states to the commies.