Four Seasons

Kinda sounds like you once again are just a little jelly of others that can actually play the game a little differently than you. You like to tell the class where anyone put out any bullshit on this thread ?? A question was asked and it was answered. I actually find it amusing that after all these years of me posting up great bucks every year and you never posting up any after all these years and you have the problem. You know that does show your true colors. Now my advice to you is if you can’t match what I put up with my way of hunting you should at the very least put up what you kill with your way of hunting. How many years has it been since you have shown a harvest on this site again?

The other two choices that didn’t work out. Hopefully they make it to chase around this fall.

I’m sure when that time rolls around I can help ya out. Until then 2023 will have to work for ya.

I guess you can bow to the 1000’s of us that do not get out jollies from killing a dumbest deer in the woods and like to challenge ourselves with the best. We still have those like you and Wolc that are still at that level with the dumbest in the woods. Enjoy that and enjoy looking at the pictures of the top bucks the other level continues to show you. Don’t feel bad though. Not everyone has what it takes.

Exactly. After being in the game for over 50 years and watching how the hunting world has changed I’m afraid in another 10 years the hunting world will look much different. With land getting ate up by expansion and with the large land lots leased out by those that want their hunting taken to the next level and not challenged by smaller animals it tough finding land for new hunters. Years ago we would walk railroad tracks for miles hunting off both sides and never saw posted signs or had anyone ever say we could not hunt. The other biggest problem now is the lack of small game to start new hunters out. Like you years back we ran coon hounds and had a blast and that now has changed to running yotes but even with that we have a hard time finding bigger blocks of woods to run the dogs. A different world no doubt.

And what do you call the fella in this post? He a great hunter because he hunts only a target animal? How about this fella’s comment in the Outdoor News? He hunts as long as he still has a target animal. Usually the ones that make the stupid comments like yours are the ones that would never be a up for the challenge and that’s life.

Just as you say. Hunters will hunt their way. And for some their way is the superior way. If you think hunting is to go sit in the woods and shoot any deer that walks by then you have no clue to what real hunting can be. Your happy to wait for Any deer while other choose to find one deer…. Which is a mature deer not so much a big antlered deer and that deer is in fact superior to the little spike or four pointer you are happy to take. That’s just a 100% fact. You hunt animals as a whole and other hunt animals one on one. And yes to be successful at that to any degree makes the Hunter just a superior as the animal they are pursuing. A mature whitetail buck is superior to all other Whitetails in so many ways. And you throw my name in there yourself for your own reasons because if you were to pay attention to the post started the guy that killed that awesome buck hunts the same exact way. I guess he is superior also.

Have you ever done it?

You see the funny thing is that we do the same exact thing. You don’t think we take kids and grandkids hunting? You don’t think we kill does and they kill any buck they choose? The fact is is that you or anyone else will know that feeling of accomplishment until one does it. Tracking a mature buck one on one and shoot him in its bed or coming out of that bed in the Adirondack snow would be the same exact feeling. We all get the enjoyment of the woods and all that goes with it. It’s just that some of us…That can do it…up our game and get a whole lot more then just sitting in the woods and waiting for the first legal deer to walk by. After harvesting 100’s of Whitetails there it makes a huge difference. Very few have what it takes to harvest a mature whitetail from start to finish but those same few get all the enjoyment you get and a whole level more.

True Words. But one will never feel what the word Hunting” really means until one finds, scouts, learns and hunts down one single mature whitetail buck one on one and go until they kill that one buck or bust. One will never know that feeling until it’s been earned. Not an easy task 99.9% of the time.

I’m with Land on this one. Awesome place and awesome look now. Can’t beat the natural beauty of wood on camps. Add in the wood heat and boom….Its Camp! Come in after a long cold day, fill the gut and feel that heat and it’s light out. Perfect!!

Great hunts happen every time one steps into the woods. It’s the outcome that’s different for all. There is no addictions, it’s called choices. And some choose to do battle with the best of the best when they chase Whitetail’s. If a person is happy just filling their tags with any deer that walks by then so be it and they should have plenty of time to hunt small game. Problem is most have a better chance of finding a 12 point buck then they do finding properties with huntable numbers of small game.

In today’s world we are losing hunters because of age and the way of the world. I really hate to see what it looks like in say only 10 years from now. It would be tough to change a hunters ways into only shooting a big deer because most hunters are just in the game to get some meat and hope to get the biggest buck that they see in the few days they have to hunt. That will never change with that group. I think once a Hunter shoots a buck say 120 or better in Ny state and get that overwhelming feeling one gets they will want that feeling every year and they will put more time into the sport then just picking out a tree somewhere and hope for the best. That feeling will never be beaten when a Hunter see’s a deer and his heart starts racing and knees start knocking. Beat drug ever. Now actually find that buck and hunt only him and kill him. That’s just addicting.

Exactly. I wish every Hunter had the chance to feel the feeling when they harvest a top of the line buck in their area regardless of the size. One that they know when they first lay eyes on it that it’s something special. Then take it one step further and do the work and find a buck or two on that special size and then hunt that deer until harvest, nothing smaller will do. Now that’s the ultimate feeling in the hunting world.

Gotta let the little ones go to get a big one. Most hunters today do not have the discipline to let bucks pass with the knowing that they might have an empty tag in their pocket at the end of the year. Nothing beats matching wits with a mature trophy whitetail for sure.

Pulled cameras. Well over 100 calling the farm home for the winter as they always do. Flock of 20 plus bearded Tom’s with Jake’s mixed in. Amazing how they just up and disperse come adoring thaw. We have plenty hang around to fill everyone’s tags but nowhere near the numbers here now.

Looks like it might be warts. Really black in color. Weird for sure.

Exactly. And regardless what prey you are after we all get to enjoy the same nature. It’s just the goals that are different.

I do only shoot trophy bucks. In my hunting area. I find a couple of the biggest mature bucks in my area and will harvest only them or a larger stranger that might show up. Nothing smaller. I also manage our lands to make it the best whitetail property possible. I think this so called Trophy Hunter that only kills top animals and does not consume them are far and few between. Personally at this point In my hunting career I need to find, hunt and harvest the best my area has to offer. To just harvest any whitetail buck in the area kinda takes the hunt out of the equation anymore. Not a real tough thing to accomplish.

Exactly. And if someone has three 130in bucks wandering their property then that will be their trophy. The whole Trophy vs Meat Hunter to me never held water. I won’t kill a buck unless it’s a mature trophy for my area and I don’t always kill a buck every year. But I do fill everyone’s freezer that I need to fill. And when I do kill that trophy I get even more meat then most because it will weigh 170lbs plus most times.

Why do you think guys that hunt for the best in their area would not fill doe tags? For the most part that must be done if you want mature bucks on your property. If there is a doe or two for every spike and four pointer around you won’t have much. Anyone I know will fill their freezers yearly without ever shooting another antlered deer. Very few areas force hunters to shoot small bucks and even so a very short ride would put them in areas with plenty of deer to be had. Of course a trophy in most cases is a mature deer, most mature deer come with bigger headgear and most hunters have mature deer on the property they hunt. The question always come downs to do they have what it takes to hunt that deer being hunter skills or the time and passing of smaller deer while hunting that so called trophy.

I find it funny when hunters use the term’s Trophy and meat hunters. You do know that those of us that choose to only kill Trophy mature bucks get just as much if not more meat then those so called meat hunters. Probably More.

Yup. Would have no problem with shorter season and one buck tag. Hell some want 3 buck tags now that crossbow is a thing.

It sure works that way on the farm. I’m sure in healthy herds it also happens in the wild. Fawns born in late May early June have the best chance of getting the needed weight on for sure.

Exactly and taking out that mature buck that dropped his rack because of breeding stress or how many BB’s get takin out of the population. Some don’t own land or care out any kind of management and that’s fine. State lands is just a continuation of the onslaught.