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Could not dis-agree with you more. Politicians are stupid. Thank God that we had brave men and women risk and give their lives so you can have the freedom to do nothing but in our current state of affairs, i think you should man up, educate yourself, pick a side and participate in the preservation of freedom, or ride the sewer water into a banana republic.

Spent about 8 hours today getting myself up to speed on corn plantings and found some great web-sites and tutorials from Ohio State Univ and Univ of Missouri. Also spent time speaking with Stanton Ag and got some real world advice from local farmers. Not exactly the way me or my wife expected me to spend one of my vacation days this week. oopps.. What i found was that G-man and Splitg2 could teach at either one of these schools. I don't have to impliment this new knowledge til next year but i'll be ready with a new game plan in 2013. Thanks for the seeds of knowledge.

As bad as this law is, My bigger fear is the precident that this courts decision has set. Basically it gave congress the ability to mandate any behavior they deem neccessary by simply calling it a "tax". Thanks Roberts For the law or against it, it is impossible to not see a tremendous loss of personal freedom vanished today.

I'm the not-so-handsome one on the right LOL. Couple of celebratory Manhattens in us after Dads successful day.

Thanks for the info Biz. Good luck..

Thanks split an g-man for the advice. Just a couple more questions and sorry to get off the pre-emergence topic but hopefully all this info will help everyone interested in getting the most out of their corn planting. It sounds like you can apply the urea at planting but might get better results applying at one foot. ?? I've never had a soil sample that didn't require almost as much P-K as the N so thats why i've usually gone with triple 19 and thats why i haven't used the urea in the past. The purple plants is good info. If i do add the urea at one foot, can you broadcast it or what is the best way to apply it.?? And lastly, have either of you had good luck with just going with 46-0-0 and nothing else either at planting or at one foot.?? Thanks

Funny how things work out in life. On the flip side a friend of ours grew up in Brighton which is Rochesters "old money" families and now 20 yrs later he is one of the premier outfitters in the country. They call him Griz and he is all Cowboy. A real Cody legend with stories of Grizzly attacks and mountain lions and blizzards and of course whiskey drinking saloon brawls. In a year he runs Mt. Lions in the winter, Then Argentina for Stags, up to Alaska guiding Brown Bears in the spring, High mt. family camping in summer and then Elk, Mulies and Big Horns in the fall. What a life.. Griz and his wife with my Dad and brothers in front.

Very cool Biz. Can you give us any info on how these hunts are done. Dogs? horseback? snowmobiles? any details you can share would be great.

You just reminded me why i always am reluctant to do corn in our personal plots. They are sweet to have during the season but the initial cost is pretty high especially if your planting 4 or 5 acres. 150-200lbs N means 15 - 20 bags of 20-20-20 per acre at about $19 per bag. Thats $380 per acre. 25 bags if you can only get triple 15. ($500) Ouch. I've always thought corn was too expensive for my blood but maybe there is a more economical way that ya'll can fill me in on.

Round-up Ready is the only way i've ever done it. Growing the stalks have never been an issue but i've been a bit disappointed in the ear yield though. Thats why i was wondering if using a pre-emerg might help in that reguard.??

It's amazing how times change. 10-12 years ago Muzzy was the big dog and their marketing campaigns showed them as the leader in new designs and quality. Now they are being gobbled up by a company that wasn't even around when they were on top. A company that took marketing to a new level. Pay as many hunting celebrities as you can to use your products and the general hunting public will buy it. I bet Bruce Barrie from Rockey Mountain Broadheads is kicking himself these days. As far as i know, his Snyper head and Revolution head were the first rearward deploying blades on the market and in some ways the snyper may be superior to the Rage but nobody ever heard of them.

Well W. your gonna have to get some advice from someone else on this one. I too have very little experience working with it but unless someone told me otherwise, i would lean towards leaving it. I could be totally wrong and hopefully someone else will add some thoughts because maybe there is nothing attractive to deer once that wheat matures and browns up. I'm just not sure. I do know that this is one reason i like doing brassicas as my annual before perenial planting though. Come spring, if all goes well, the field will be nothing but brassica nubs and dirt. So if i'm a bit late getting to it, there is nothing there that can go to seed. If we didn't have this mild winter and spring, you probably could have worked your new plot and still got to this one in time but everything is way ahead of schedule.

That second stand is not gonna be doing you any good in the garage. I'd hang it and see how things play out. I also would do a hang on if you have the option. Maybe i'm being paranoid but I've been starting to feel like the deer around me get educated pretty quick to these ladder stands. Seems like everyone is using them and after a couple weeks into the season, I feel like they know what that strange shaped tree means and start keeping their distance. No real proof but i guess i feel better blaming my hunting failures on something. lol .

Cummins, i think Early knows exactly what that plant is. He just wants to go over to that blonde's place again.. This time with a camera.LOL

Can't help on this one but i know i'll be taking notes when you get some answers. Was just telling someone about the anxiety i get whenever i spray something. It's stupid but i usually can't sleep for fear that i mis-mixed or grabbed the wrong stuff or did something and just ruined all my hard work and my plot.

Good advice. I like putting brassicas in in the fall and then come spring do the clover. The big leaves do a great job of choking the weeds and a light discing in the spring is usually all that's needed. I'm not a big fan of fall perenial plantings but i know of some guys that like to plant buckwheat in the spring and then til it under and plant clover in the fall. I ran into a delemna this year because I met with a guy over the winter and he was determined to have clover in the ground in the spring. I had to take a fallow field and make it into a clover patch by june. Very hard to do beat the weed in that situation but so far so good. Got great coverage with the clover which is half the battle. Did a grass spraying this weekend to try to stay ahead of the fight. We'll see how that works in a week or two.

Water dispersement system. May the buck that grows the most bone win..

Well, not a drip here today for my plots. Dang it..

What's he nibblin' on there Gowalot? and is that a new planting or existing one?

I second that Split, Had vaca. planned for this week and earlier forcasts called for rain most of the week, so i decided Sunday would be the perfect day to impliment the second phase of that clients plot that i put clover in earlier. That was Tall Tine Tubers(turnips). I knew that i was a couple weeks ahead of the planting date recomendations but the forcast looked so good i figured i'd take this chance. Everything went great and i got everything in and the clouds rolled in and then it sprinkled for about 2.5 minutes... Like someone spitting on you from on top of the silo.. What the heck. Woke this morning and nothing. Checked the weather and nothing in sight and a new forcast for very small chances of rain. Son of a gun. We fortunately got a pretty good rain about a week ago and the sub-soil here is still moist where i planted in 8H but other parts of the state haven't got much. Start Dancin' dude..

The wash- then spray on- then put in the dryer to activate products do work pretty well at shedding water off hunting fabrics and so they give you a bit of protection from an unexpected rain but they should not be relied upon as rain proof. I like using them on some outfits because they can keep the garment from absorbing the water and weighting the jacket down. Nice on pant legs to keep the dew from a soaking as you walk to your stand. Revivex, granger, nikwax and the company that makes sno-seal(atsko) all work. The Atsko one seemed to have some unwanted smell to it when you got caught in the rain though. I used it on my back-pack in the hopes that it would keep my lunch and spare layers dry in the rain. It did do that pretty well. Order a bottle of one of these and try it on one random fleece or cotton garment. Then when it comes out of the dryer, stick the sleeve under a running faucet. The water just bounces off.

That other thread talks about buying a "hunting truck" that will get the job done in any weather and off pavement hunting conditions. Well this would fit the bill quite nicely for alot less then a new rig.

Paula, i've used some Granger products to re-freshen the factory dwr(durable water repellency) of some hunting outfits and it worked pretty good. Makes the rain bead up and fall right off the fabric when it rains. They will not water proof no matter what the labels say though. The Nikwax products i've heard are good but have only used their down wash stuff. And all my leather boots get worked over with different conditioners and water-proofers a few times a year. Way to much money invested in them to just leave them muddy and un-protected.

Last year i convinced myself and my wife that i needed a new truck if i was going to be serious about this property management thing. After i brought it home and she saw what i paid, she convinced me that it was a good thing i bought a truck big enough to sleep in should i ever find myself locked out.

Yea their really great though when you need alittle help filling the space in those REALLY big bores bub. lol