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Let's try. You don't have to be a gun expert. Heck about anyone here has more on the ball around guns than most of those writing the regulations/Laws. Can we agree that single shots, bolt actions, lever actions and pump shotguns and rifles should be allowed into citizens hands (given what ever action has to take place like the background checks)

Virgil.....What "types" do you want to see banned? lay them out?

He did

What "types" do you want to see banned? lay them out.

Now that was funny right there. Good one.

No. you choose to disregard the fact that with motive they will find the means wether it is a firearm or not. Why? becasue that fits your personal agenda. Ironic huh?

Why a physical?

Because teh ongong topic is banning high capacity mags and assault rifles. .I know you arent' stupid. You can see the witch hunt going on. For the record. I do'nt even own any of these. Only semi auto I have is shotguns and 22LR's

WTF.....I didn't say shit about other countries and WNY said it isn't a problem LIMITED to us. It is everywhere. Which it is. Back the freak up

AGAIN.... Blind eye to the facts.

Read Geno. "Mass murder is not a problem LIMITED to this country". geeeesh

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

National statistics. See post #47

It was not a combat situation but like almost all of our weapons it was designed and developed as a military weapon first and for combat. A blunderbust I think was even the first type of musket firing multiple projectiles.

Bull$hit Virgil. Look at the statistics. Are we going to move forward based on an incident or do we really want to do something? After all the chest beaters are spouting how they are the only ones that care about life...ALL LIFE. so let's address the more deadly weapon.

Honestly I care more about my family's lives than your family's lives...that is true.

Aurora it was used.

Aside from the Hype of the specific mass shootings if we want to join hands and attack the weapon with this highest body count shouldn't we start there? We should feel lucky Lanza didn't bring the shotgun in that is reported to have been in his trunk. I think the focus on assault rifles is an attempt to side step the real killers. The stats don't hold up that the effort should be there. It should be on pistols and shotguns.

But Murder using a firearm is down trending as is the over all murder rate.

Oh fo goodness sake. Are 6 and 7 year olds more precious to their families than when they hit 10 or 11...or 16 or 18. Come one.

Weapons.pdf.

Let's not confuse the "concern" of those beating their chests for something to be done. They either have no true desire to pass any reform that would reduce these horrors (if that is even possible) or are too unimformed to understand statistics. They have an agenda and it is about control. Let me start by saying this. Murder rates in the Nation have been declining since 2007. That includes the declining portion involving firearms during the same period. Let's assume for the sake of argument that it is possible to decrease murder by implementing regulations. The assault rifle is NOT the place to start. I is a minimal contributer to the overall statistics. trying to stop murder by banning assault weapons is a kin to trying to reduce the nations dependency on foreign oil by mandating better effeciency in Coleman lanterns. If a long gun should be banned it is the shotgun becasue the incident rate for it's use is higher than all rifles for every year since 2007 except one and that was only a difference of 1. Mind you that is all rifles. 22LR's, bolt actions, lever guns, single shots and those evil assault rifles. SO if we truely wnat to make an impact (they are telling us we can) We should be banning shotguns as the first long gun to go the way of the dinosaurs. Assault rifles are much smaller contributors that shotguns. As would come as no surprise to anyone handguins are the primary tool for murders. Not even close. So again those should probably be the first firearms to be taken away to really see a big change.(Again, from what they tell us) The media has the country fired up into a frenzy and the mass shooting do get the press becasue that is what sells. The ex wife that gets her head bashed in by a baseball bat or the boyfriend that is stabbed just isn't as glamorous. BUT. if we wanted to really effect the numbers on a whole and not focus on the hype, the use of blunt objects and cutting objects are two categories that each score a higher body bag count that rifles or shotguns. What agency will license those? Maybe I am just being too simple minded. maybe it is the evil assault rifles that caused this latest tragedy. Of was it the actual rounds fired? Is it Bushmaster's fault? (well they certainly will be getting sued in some fashoin) Or was it the ammo manufacturer? Well the rounds are not dangerous on their own. The bullet that made impact with the victims is nothing but a hunk of metal without the powder.....Must be the evil powder manufacturers fault. Well that doesn't work does it. The powder won't do anything unless the primer goes off. Must be the Primer makers fault. But that wouldn't explode unless something hit it. OK. we get back to the gun. Well do we? Would the firing pin have been able to start the whole process, ending up in a casuality if it weren't there? Maybe the car dealer shouldn't have sold the car to the mother and then there would not have been a way for him to get there? What if the car maker didn't make a vehicle where guns could so easily be concealed? The Columbine, Aurora and Sandy Hook shooters all drove cars. All 3 had trunks , from reports I have read. Should we mandate vans, pickups and SUV becasue they don't have a trunk?

Ants. I don't understand the last sentence?

two deer I hit very well this year went 65 then 120 yards before any blood trail was visible. Good luck. hit that hard she can't be far

No sense starting a new topic. The company that owns Remington Arms just announced given the shooting they will be putting the Arms up for sale. Given their recent 84 million contract to build M4's I think the sale will be attractive. Watch the company get broken up and parted out. Be sad to see an iconic name like that diasappear. Talk about a death blow to the Valley