Culvercreek hunt club

Boght a Bowtech a few years back to "upgrade" from my proline point blank which I shot very well.....never gaveme a problem....and always did what I asked of it.....would cut off a pinky with a rusty butter knife to have it back. The new bows are great but the price tags are crazy. Up grade if you wish but if it mechanically sound and you shoot it well?...sometimes better not to mess with a good thing...my 2 cents

Congrats...can't wait to see the mount pics when it is done

How does letting the 1-1/2 yo's wal;k increase the rack size of the new 1-1/2 yo's. I understand they would be bigger the next year but what effect does it have on the new generation?

I don't touch mine anymore unless it is obvious the deer is heading for the back 40 and not coming by me. I have spooked some too. But did grunt an 8 in during bow for my first bow buck...came running right across open meadow. but again...for me ...last option

If he wasn't sppoked and didn't make you in the stand...He'll be back...bummer. and good luck.

I got two for 8H too...and the clown in line I got into a disagreement with....but that will be for another topic...lol. I would have loved to see the array of folks in the line at midnight

you do NOT have to go where you bought you license- any license agent can do it...just need you drivers license

yees the DEC has the list on their site for what is available http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/6399.html They are going fast

The gtuy in front of ne was denied and did NOT recieve one. He was there to get his. Walmart in Henrietta started selling them at 12:01 this morning and they said the line was out the front door. about 12 people were there when I got there at 7 am...and it locked up half way through my selection......an hour later I left...lol

Very cool video. I noticed something that I was not aware of...some guns have right had twist...others left?

And with these new ballot machines---VERIFY THE VOTES WERE LIKE YOU CAST THEM!!! I have already heard some horror stories

Just a reminder

Gonna have to wait til next weekend I guess....big boy came out on a doe...grunt...rattle...doe bleat....only thing I didn't do was put on a skirt and show a little leg....he paid no attention to me....oh...and they walked within 15 yards of my wheeler...guess I should have sat there

I am trying....they just won't cooperate...selfish sob's...bucks are running does hard...they r all at rifle distances...grrrR

Good luck...feels like a hurricane here...been sitting since noon

Cool and just a light breeze...already have seen 8 does....come on....show me some bones!

I think about it all...that is why I went through the spreadsheet exercise...I know that was a perfect situation with no outside forces...but I didn't think the numbers would even sustain like that.

Lol....bet that guy at 70 could shoot 1200 with his rifle to. I am not buying it...on a range maybe...but under hunting conditions...don't think that would make good sense

Nope...no women and no DEC formulas...lol. Was actually trying to prove a diminishing herd from saving young bucks, pushing the buck doe ratio to 1 to 1 and letting the breeding does bare the burden to hit the maximum population. Surprised me....didn't even have to fudge numbers...lol

So once ther was a level out...it seems to maintain. with an age structure that increases. ??? ??? ??? We obviously have perfect conditions on our island since there was no winter kill, disease, predators, cars. The does were perfect and averaged on fawn per each doe and a perfect split of buck doe fawns were born OK...now both sides have at me...lol

I am going to try something here but it may take a few posts to do it....I am a numbers guy...prove it to me. I have been shewing over this 5 gallon pail of and environment scenario. fixed managed deer herd at capacity (desired level). All this talk about numbers of bucks increasing and to me that means the does have to decrease to get to the magic 1 to 1 a lot are posting. Now my tought was ....if the number of breeding does keep getting reduced....it has to get a drop in the overall herd. So here goes and i tried to stay objective. Welcome to Hunting Ny Island. We brought in 100,000 whitetails of various ages (the make up doesn't matter come to find out)...and since we got a hell of a deal on the deer the make up had to be 1 to 7...buck to doe. Since the guys like me that have been against AR's are just tired of debating til we are blue in the face...we gave in. Here are the rules 1- 50% of the bucks will be shot every season 2- No shootig 1-1/2 year old bucks 3- no fawns killed 4- 2 part system 1 week of buck season------followed by 1 week of doe season 5- Doe harvests will be set after the buck season to maintain the 100,000 maximum population of our island. Here is what happened...surprised me...I have the active spread sheets if anyone wants to verify my formulas and math.

I really believe they can make one rule right now with little opposition and some direct benefits....one buck

HAHAHA... I'm full of it? I'll say it again, I speak for my area. It works, period. You are telling me I'm full of crap because I speak from first hand experience, are you insane or just an ignorant? Great for you with the 150 class, thats not the norm. Clearly you don't need AR's in your area. If your seeing all these great mature deer why the hell in gods name would you give a rats ass if there were AR's in your area. You have all these monsters walking around, then a measly 3 point AR on one side is not going to make ONE BIT OF FREAKING DIFFERENCE FOR YOU OR ANYONE THAT HUNTS IN YOUR AREA! So stop whining about how AR's are so horrible and go get your 150 class deer that we have yet to see you post. I have been very consistent in my posts....I do practice it. I hunt with and know a lot of guys who don't and others that do. The problem I have is not with the implimentation of any plan...my problem is putting a plan in that has questionable motives, suspect findings, and imposing it on hunters that do not want it. That is my issue...always has been. I know you guys say that in your area, all the guys you know want this and love it. I am not questioning what you say. I believe you because you are basing it on what you know. I take a burn when someone uses a poll based on a very small percentage of hunters and passes that as a justification of the regulation. the type of hunting we have her in Ny is a tradition....not cast in permanent stone, but in my view, if we are to chage tradition they had better be overwhelming support.....based on a much larger percentage than was done. If you try to change a lot of folks traditions...you might stand a better chance messing around with their wife of kicking their dog. Folks as a general rule are set in their ways and resist change. It would have no effect on my hunting style but other would probably need to see that support in hard numbers. I don't understand why , if the support is there, that the supports in the large numbers do not push DEC for a voting on a program. The computerized license system I would think would make this sooooo easy...2011 license year....when you buy one you must select support or no support....to be implemented in 2012. seems very simple to me. But supporting what I guess is the bigger question. and again I question a report put forth with things like the health of the herd....decreased car accidents....less over browsing damage...genteler rut for the bucks. I outlined why I thought those were incorrect conclusions but havent seen any response to them from the supporters on here other than I am wrong. I really don't think I am and I have to call into question the rest of the study and the conclusions. If you look at the study from a purely scientific analysis....if the original questions, methods of collection data or the conclusions are in any way in error the experiemnt is invalid.

I have been in multiple areas of WMU 5, 6r,6s,7r,7s,8c,8h,8m,8n. I have seen bucks in all those areas that are 130 or better. I believe they are out there. all over the state. Will every piece of property hold them. no. But I think that is part of the magic of seeing one you do not trip over one every trip out....lol. I am glad it seems to be working down there for you guys...I really am. The guys I hunt with right around my house...8H. don't let bucks pass. even with all the trail cam pics they see so they know they are there. That is their choice though. I don't gun hunt there...(I spend that season with my Dad in a much less productive area). Last year was the first time one of them scored a nice buck. one I had been watching and chasing all Bow season. Lucky for my buddy(sitting in my stand I told him to use...lol) it was the first Buck that came through. Not a slob but very respectable...I love the high racks.

I am not busting you chops, but what poll, study is that statement based on?