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Grampy A fixed crawl is when, shooting three under, your top finger is below the arrow nock on the string by a set distance. Usually around 1/2-1". It allows you to put the tip of the arrow at a set distance, say 20yds, on the target and, assuming you have a solid shot sequence, it will hit where the tip was pointed. It does detune the bow but is an easy way to aim. You figure out where you want that crawl to work, say 20 yds, and gap from there. Tip slightly high at 25 and low at 15, etc. Its a form of string walking, but with string walking you move your top finger further or closer to the nock based on yardage to target so that the tip is always pointed where you want to hit. With an ILF bow, its a bit easier to tune for a crawl because you can adjust tiller (usually moving more towards a negative tiller) but many will use a crawl even with a bolt down recurve. Not so great with shorter bows, but it works.

My success rate has been the same. Interpret that how you will. Lol. Would love to kill one with my recurve.

Does this mean you finally plan to try running a trail camera this year? Hmmmm

So that's what a turkey looks like. Was always curious.

72 here. You guys need new HVAC units.

Nothing wrong with the samick. Just not ideal for a fixed crawl. Still a solid bow. I think buckmaster7600 shoots one. I shoot 3 under. All personal preference but 99 perceht of guys that compete in barebow shoot 3 under because it brings the arrow tip much closer to the target. If you plan on using the arrow to aim, and most do, 3 under is the better option. If I shoot split, the arrow hits so high on the target at 20yds that the sight window on my bows blocks it out. pm me and I will shoot you my number if you want to talk by phone.

That's very cool. If you know his DL, check AT. Tons of used bows and you can often find a good deal. Just limit your search to those with good feedback. Good luck.

Left field, join tradtalk and ask guys like John Demmer (currently one of the best in the world in barebow) or contact Rod Jenkins or Joel Turner. All are the very best at what they do and more than willing to help guide a new trad archer. Feel free to PM me if you want more info. It is a blast. Enjoy the ride.

Grow it's great that you were successful starting with that bow but I can assure you that no traditional archery coach would recommend starting with a 45lb bow - male or female. If you have to strain to hold the bow than you can't focus on the form. And I say that knowing that I can draw a bow much heavier than most. It's still not the best to learn good form. Not looking to argue, I would just hate to see someone starting out led in the wrong direction. There is a reason that competitive archers shoot lighter weights. And it's not because they are weaklings.

No doubt you could do it Grampy. Many of the newer bows are much more efficient. I.e. Now there are 40lb bows that can shoot an arrow as hard as 60lb bows of years past. Plus, when you get correct alignment, the weight is all on your skeletal frame and very little muscle is needed. Learning on a light bow really helps to get that form down.

35lbs is minimum for hunting big game.

Until you get your form down where you are in great alignment and using your back to pull, 45lbs is a lot to get to full draw and hold. Not saying this to brag, but I am about as strong as they come holding all the super heavy powerlifting records in NY and I started with 50lbs on a short bow. Big mistake. Only lengthened my learning curve to shoot properly. It's pretty easy to snap shoot with that weight even when you start but I don't believe you will reach your full potential shooting like that. Some may disagree. If I recall correctly, in the Push, the archer uses a fixed crawl. Works great for hunting distances as it puts the arrow tip on the deer. Easy to aim. But it's tougher to tune and requires a longer bow - 66" or longer is better. The samick sage is only 62" and not the best for fixed crawl. It will be loud and out of tune on a crawl That's where ilf shines as you can adjust tiller as needed. Not many shops specialize in bare bow or traditional archery. I don't know of any in NY. 3 Rivers and Lancaster are good. Take your time researching. Check out tradtalk and the trad archery sub forum on archery talk. There are some knowledgeable people there and some not as knowledgeable that still give advice so you need to weed it out. I am far from an expert but happy to help if I can. I shoot a recurve every day and really enjoy the challenge. I am now at least confident enough that if a deer is in range (30yds or less) I can make a good shot. Start light and you will learn to shoot well. Then heavier weight will be easier.

Also watch some Joel Turner and Rod Jenkins videos online. Great teachers. Masters of the barebow 3 is a very good watch also.

If you are just starting shooting a recurve, I suggest starting with a weight you can easily dominate. 30lbs is typical for a grown man. Later you can buy limbs in heavier weight as you progress. Learn first then get hunting limbs IMO. Samick is a good bow but the stock string is horrible Have Steve B on this site make the string (mountain muffler strings). They are simply the best. Starting with an elevated bear weather rest is probably a good idea Much easier to get decent flight until your form is good Then you can shoot off shelf if you prefer. If you start with 30lbs, I would suggest full length 600 spine for practice It will take some trial and error to figure out point weight but likely between 125-200g. If you stick with 45lbs either 500 or 400 spine will work depending on point weight. For a bit more, you may want to pick up an ilf riser and limbs but it may be more complicated than necessary starting out. all just my opinion.

Pretty sure that's true but if he is out of the pocket, he is fair game

46 but don't feel a day older than 44. And I am on it Curmudgeon. Must be on iTunes.

What a bummer. I bet that forced you to finish the basement with a righteous man cave. Pity.

I know nothing of him other than he was a folk singer that sang the wreck of the Edmund fitzgerald.

Gordon Lightfoot - I never knew you were a hippie commie pinko TCIII. Good for you.

Stop telling him how great his work is, he will want to charge more! lol As usual top notch and this isn't even your real job.

I have a 12x16 shed that we built on a concrete slab. Its not heated but has electricity. Be sure to add a PVC elbow when pouring the concrete so that you can bring the wiring from the ground up through the slab. If you are handy Biz, building one is not very hard. Time consuming but you might just have some fun. Its a nice addition as a pool house.

Just off winds can be important in certain areas and for certain stand sets, and yep milkweed is great and FREE. Good luck Buckman.

Apparently my sarcasm of a 3" group stinking has not been well conveyed. All in jest with Biz as he knows I am a Sako fan. Moving on now.

It was a joke about weatherby accuracy - or at least intended to be .....

I kind of laugh at suggesting there is "competition" between man and deer. Certainly the deer don't know it, unless you consider trying to survive a "competition."