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Well dinner and cookies were a big hit...and the daughters boyfriend...hedged his bets and made dinner for her when she got home...she hedged hers and had stopped for his favorite wine on her way home...lol....both kids called and wished Mom a happy V day...alls good with the world...lol

Misread what Steve said...MY Bad...BUT I stand by what I've read and heard guys talking about when discussing Xbows and their longer distance shooting

There you go...all that and you summed up my biggest concern...and why would XBow supporters have a problem with that...If your a gun hunter and want to cross bow hunt.... and a xbow is a bow...then don't whine if you have to take the same course I and every other archer had to take...leave the little... Oh I read and signed the paper crap.... to people that already took the course and are experienced bow hunters...that's all I'm saying... Also Steve is right...it's a consistent topic of conversation when xbows are brought up...how much farther a guy can shoot compared to a Vbow...you might not like it but it's a fact ...whether it's "ethical" or not it's happening and will be prevalent... No I really don't know a lot of guys that purposely take bad shots...bad shots happen...has happened to me and I don't know anyone that has taken a shot past 50yrds with a Vbow....save one and he was a competitive shooter that took a deer at 80yrds...so he said...Ray Towner..owned an Archery shop

Talking to my daughter right now....she cancelled Valentines daya week ago...her boy friend of 11yrs...asked if it was a trick...lol...after 11yrs and no ring I think she's just given up

Yepp ...those are a few videos I watched this a.m....and I have to agree....I personally know a guy that never wanted to bow hunt..."too much work"...Then went out and had to have a new gadget...took a 60 yrd shot on a 6pt ...got it but it was not a good shot and he had to do a lot of leg work on a 1 lung and gut shot...another one of those..I took it out of the box and was shooting 2in groups at 50yrds in a half hour....I worry more about the older gun hunters wanting more season ...with no instruction than the young ones having to take an archery course...I also know a Virgina woman that took off the top of her thumb while shooting and she was a seasoned xbow user

Thanks

After so many years we don't do much...Mr B gave me my card and some chocolates this morning..saying I almost got you flowers but...and I said I would have killed you lol.....seriously I put a stop to that waist of money years ago...I'd rather have a dozen arrows... about same amount of $$ ...right now I'm stirring up a batch of oatmeal/raisin/chocolate chip cookies for him ...and making chicken pot pie...a favorite of his tonight Hope you all have a great Valentines with loved ones

Thanks WNYBH...for the answer....perhaps miss understood the second shot comment...I meant a VBow has the advantage on second possible shot...the noise part ...I was going on the sound from video demo of the new PSE...bunch of dampeners on that...Does the DEC have a list of specs that are allowed?...not that I need you to post...just steer me in right direction ...I don't get them (DEC) allowing X-bows for big game like deer during a gun season and not for turkey

Also got to thinking...are cross bows legal for turkey in NY...seeing they were allowed in gun during deer season?

great video...thanks

This thread has me checking out crossbows again...and what I'm reading here doesn't jive with what I'm reading and seeing on the net....like 100yrd shots from 12000.00 PSEs and wow quiet with a bunch of dampeners...50yrds accurate from 430.00 titans ...steady eddied for holding the weight...kids drawing 180#'s no problem with draw cables....bows that are only 13inches wide at the widest...not seeing where Vbows have an edge as some say...OTHER than if a shot is missed or bad a possible quick follow up can happen....SOMETIMES

See bubba ...I pictured being able to sit...foot in "stirrup with leg stretched out and pulling the cable toward you.... that way....I pictured it giving a person a bit more leverage...but thanks for the answer

Ha then we had a or close to a world record here one year....thin tines came up 4inches then went 2inches past ears on either side and over his nose and nearly touched infront...not a tine growing up from either "beam" as it were..seen him a year later with three 2-3 inch tines on each side and rack was just as wide...reminded me of a skinny long horned steer...well that's what came to mind....

I really don't know about them...so serious ? here...If all you have to do is stand on a bar and pull up...why would that be so difficult in a tree stand?

looks like a well thought out plan to me....at least one of our areas will now be open....might help in the turkey... grouse decline in those areas

Holy Cow!! did you see that pig fly by...WNYBH and I agree on something!!

I can see why he'd sell....guy with camp next to us...has a camp in the same area....He's selling his camp there and keeping the camp he has next to us....the taxes are just too bad down there Our Alfred camp taxes cost 4,000 a year....one could go on some nice hunts with that money...with out all the hassle of owning...ie repairs ...maintenance ...electric bills

Congrats!

With cell phones now days why would anyone stop anymore...But sometimes truth is stranger than fiction Day break(still pretty dark) and bumper to bumper traffic going through York NY...on the way to work in Caledonia...houses on my left and an open field to the right and I glance over to see a little boy sitting Indian style on the side of the road in his PJ's ..facing the field....well I thought I was seeing things...and no cells back then...drove me crazy all the way to work ..so call sheriffs...Said this sounds crazy but I think........Yep it was a little boy...that has to be locked in his house because this happened on a regular basis...He happened to escape that morning...Imagine being those parents....

I'd be surprised if it hasn't sold yet....very fair price from what you've shown

Lord almighty that wasn't meant as some nasty comment of ATV riders ...nor would I ASSUME a loaded gun put in a gun BOOT would have a round in the chamber...Just that how many would think you'd be ticketed on the way to or from your stand..Geez

How many of you load your gun and put it in the ATV gun boot and drive to stand?? Bet most don't even think twice....Ahhh glad I prefer the walk..though at camp I have to walk down two different roads...couple of times on stand...CLICK...Damn!

bkln...ha that was nothing...lets see ..a standard threat for rebellious independent kids is .."I'm running away!"....OK I'd pack their little bag and put them and the bag out the door saying " We have rules,not hard ones, but if you think someone else would love you more ...I want you to be happy" a hug and shut the door..Daughter would cry and ask to come back in...son...3yrs old...the little bugger started off down the street...Well I couldn't have that... so grabbed big sister(6) and off in the van we went to pick him up...drove all around town to we found a cop...now they are just yelling Mom please no!!!..Told officer what was going on and to please go tell them about the nasty ppl out their just looking for runaways....He says I can't go scare your kids...I said I"m not asking that..Tell them the truth and if it scares them so be it!...he walks over to 2 kids bouncing around the van now crying...embarrassed...and says You want to run away? son says.. yes (sobbing)...cop..."What did your Mommy do to you to make you run away?"...I said Great!..you tell him exactly what I did...son (sobbing) she...she..wouldn't give me another Popsicle...sob..sob..sob....the officer just stared at me..I said ya I'm horrible..but worked until 15 He does run away...so I called 2 judges and the sheriffs...no one wanted to help so I said...I've documented what I've done to get help and have witnesses..so I am liable for his actions until 18or 21yrs of age ..If he injures him self or others I will hit every form of media known...an arrest warrant was issued...4hrs later son calls...I can't believe you have a warrant out for me!!! I said you gave me no choice...come home or get picked up..he came home...then went to mediation....I have 2 great and responsible kids...both went to college...son owns his own home and is looking to buy another works full time and scraps on the side...daughter has a masters and works in the deans office at a NYS college...When they were out of line I found solutions other than shooting things up

Steve ...now don't be mean...that would have to imply he's a child....he's not a child ... I believe just grew up on the Pondarosa

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