Five Seasons

He's the only tv guy I can stand. Hunts because and stands for all the same things I believe in. Awesome show.

My point was that it's possible on small plots of land. I thought that was obvious.

Why don't you ever post fork horns on your website? Such a hypocrite

Half of those were my fault haha. At the end of the day just like ARs they were s hot topic. Then they go into place and people get over it.

Monster 10 on my 5 acre spot last year. Didn't pick the right days but he was by the stand during shooting hours. That's hunting...

Because some people aren't good at it lol. Harvesting a mature buck isn't easy. Harvesting a yearling on the right property is. Harvesting any deer on some public land or up north is hard. Not all hunters are equal in skill or have the access to good land. Hunting is great because it's not easy without some effort. But if you can't kill a deer in some of the southern zone counties you're probably doing something wrong. I'm sorry to be blunt, but it's the truth. We're not all created equal. Get over it.

Way to go off the deep end. Twice I in my question I stated it was an honest question out of curiosity. I guess I didn't realize I had to "be someone" to ask a question on an Internet discussion board. A few of the answers helped enlighten me. Not sure why you had to to freak out.And yes, on some properties it is easy. Not trying to put you down, just stating a fact.

I should have prefaced that my question doesn't apply to low density areas which is why I like the regional approach.

Deer are naturally curious just like your dog. "Hey what's that"? "Let me check it out". Some animals are not curious. Coyotes, fox etc. makes them harder to kill. They also seem to have a sense. Deer are more at ease and curious when they know I'm hint turkey and not them haha.

I suppose it's like keeping my opinion to myself. You wont find a post on here where I gave someone a hard time for shooting a small buck. I have family members with rooms full of trophies that still shoot a basket 6. If they're family we do some ball busting but nothing serious. So cringing a little inside isn't really a big deal i dont think. I guess it's tougher because most of what I see are my neighbors. My father is shooting only 3.5 or 4.5's. I'm trying for 2.5's or bigger and the neighbors shoot the yearlings. I'm not super pro-AR. I do respect their right to take the yearling I let walk all bow season. I guess I struggle with why. We have doe falling over themselves on our property so if they need meat they can get it. An open ended question I guess. "if you've been hunting for 10 years or more and have shot some big bucks, WHY are you shooting the fork horn?" They're easy to kill but so are the doe. The horns are probably ending up on your barn wall and you don't get that from a doe. But really why do you shoot them instead of a mature or young doe? Honest question. No strings attached.

he manages to bring it into every thread. I stay out of the convos, but frankly it's getting old. Ok you're a deer farmer. Great we all know it. Lets talk about deer hunting. I don't care about your farm and it derails half the threads on this forum.

spot on. small numbers ruin it for the majority. It's not just the litter bugs. It's the poachers, those that shoot near houses, those that park in spots they shouldn't. They turn landowners off. I think some are missing what ARs are meant to do. They're not meant to put a trophy in everyones barn. Those deer are hard to kill. That's why it's so awesome when you do take one. I for one, do not want it to be easy. ARs are meant to reduce the yearling buck harvest. I don't know of a state that has ARs limiting the taking of a 2.5. So if ARs will increase my chances of seeing more 2.5's and less scrub bucks than I'm for them. I'm not against the hunter who takes the big 6 or the decent 8. Those are nice deer for 98% of us. I'm not against the youth taking the fork horn. Those are great pics and trophys in their own right. I do cringe a little at experienced hunters taking a fork in Wayne county when the doe are overpopulated. In turn, with ARs I'll probably see an increase in mature deer as well. But it's not going to be something noticeable. They wont just start showing up. But there will be more and I'm for that.

read the pdf that was posted. They clearly understand the complications and issues and there is nothing easy about it. They recognize that in their release. I'm shocked that some of you don't realize the DEC has ALWAYS told you what you can shoot. Regulations on time of day and year. Regulations on what and how many. I do know what your point is, but the argument that "nobody is going to tell me what I can shoot" is just down right ludicrous. You are already told how many doe, bucks, turkey etc you can shoot and even what you can shoot it with. ARs are just another reg. So really what I'm asking is that you rephrase your protest.

You can live in a palace and run a business that dumps toxic waste into the water. You can live in a shack and leave no footprint. When will people learn that their net worth means nothing when it comes to who you are as a person?

Wow just wow. You suffer from serious insecurities my friend. If the DEC is after you than in inclined to believe you're doing something wrong. Your simple lack of reasoning has me blown away and in doubt if your claims. Saying I can't do something g because you don't like it and saying you can't do something because it's harmful to humans or the environment are not even in the same ballpark.

Confiscating the deer has to be worse than the fine for some Id think. I admit the baiting seems higher than I thought with respect to actually getting caught.

kodak also had the patent to the LCD. Sold it to samsung. Let that one sink in... I'm a pretty smart insightful dude. I'm just wrapped in the shell of an opinionated

if that paint has lead in it or your carwash has chemicals prohibited from entering the waterway than no, no you can't do that. Or we could just let our cancer rates continue to rise and our streams and lakes become polluted because you have a stick up your ass. Good lord... do you dump your used motor oil in the back too? I think I drove by your place the otherday your lack of care for the environment saddens me. How can you be a hunter and outdoorsman and pollute at the same time?

Nobody is going to take you seriously when you are obviously very set in your ways and anti-trophy. you need to show some understanding for "your neighbor" to help contribute to the conversation.

which is human nature. We fear change. We don't know what will happen. Will hunting as we know it be ruined? idk... Will it improve? that'd be great but we have no guarantee. Businesses struggle with change all the time. Change is scary. Kodak failed at it and Apple won at it.

that's certainly a start I think most could get behind. If you haven't killed a deer in 2 months, you had your shot haha. Problem may be that I bet the percentage of late season kills and even hunter numbers are pretty low. I'm not sure it makes a noticeable impact. The real impact would be during the rut or opening weekend of gun.

thank you for that. all the "commenters" in this thread should read this.

Shouldn't really surprise most of us. The notice was in last years rule book about considering ARs. I guess I struggle with why people think hunter numbers will drop? If you quit hunting because you can only shoot 1 buck or not a small buck I can't imagine you really loved the sport and hunted that much to begin with. I struggle with the fact that with time ARs will grow bigger deer, and some of you believe that wont attract more hunters? It takes time but your chances of a nicer buck increase. To me, that draws hunters in. They're not your deer. It is your land. You still can't just do whatever you please. The laws of the state all still apply to you. The DEC CAN and WILL tell you what you can do on your land whether you like it or not. If you get caught you will pay whether you like it or not. Last I knew I couldn't murder someone on my land and claim it was my land and I can do what I want on it. I wouldn't say it's great. It's all we have. It's decent, I just wish they stuck more to facts and offered opposing opinions. The were very pro crossbow. That's fine, but they didn't give any anti-crossbow view the time of day. Typical media I know, but it bothers me. just google kentucky one buck. Plenty of good articles out there. The culture in OH is really not all that different than upstate NY.

I'm sorry where did I say it was a stat? I clearly used the word "bet". Every hunter wants bigger deer sure, I just believe archers want it more. A gun only hunter gives up 2 months and the rut... How bad do you really want it? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I disagree with the poacher comment. Anybody who you think is going to get extra tags is already doing it. The ARs change nothing.