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I saw deer in my plot this morning. They were eating the tall line of weeds I have surrounding the plot. Just old lawn I stopped mowing to get a bit of concealment. With fertilizer and lime, some forget this big thing. The amount you put in is relative to how deep you get the stuff down to. Clover plots can be left alone for a good number of years before you turn it up again. I like to start them right, since my effort in time is worth alot to me.

They all sound cool...... However, think it would be any better than a 30-06 180gr on whitetail deer? IF you reload maybe, if you don't why? A hole or two a year in deer, but the other 363 days of the year, you got a gun that shoot much more expensive ammo and delivers some more performance, which is already overkill on deer. Practice is what makes deer go down quickly, not more impressive numbers on paper.

I live near Hudson, NY but hunt Fort Plain. They sell to pickup truck loads of stuff. Like 6-24-24 or lime?

I hunt on 400 acres of well prepped commercial farmland. Last year I got a decent feller with the bow. He was walking the edge of the field eating the weeds. Filet Minon sucks if you eat it everyday...... Soil contact! Remove stuff over soil, put seed in a bit of loose soil, push it into the soil...... I do several small 1/10th acre spots in the ADK's with a weedwacker and rake. I don't hunt them, but use them for viewing what kind of deer are around, or atleast how many doe groups. Many folks wait to fertilize once the seed is grown a bit. I put a bit of fertilizer, or put some in the fall before I start, then put a decent amount when it's growning a bit. Besides food plots.... Hinge cutting to bring your deer another 10 or 20 yards closer. Deer love to nibble the fresh buds I'm nuts! I fertilize the weeds! I make sure my edges are brushy. More concealed they are, they more they like it. Alternate foodplot idea I use. Transplant shrubs they like to eat. That 2 or 3 ft of soil before the corn row starts..... put some lettuce in, chicory. You just need the right deer to be in the wrong place at your right time...... One huge trick, should be illegal. Late rifle or muzzleloader, cut a maple tree down. Works better than a bag of corn! Do it in JAn/Febuary, you'll like sheds in the trees. Wait a few days, then cut the high branches down low. I've gotten atleast a dozen diffent does n bucks on a half gallon of 2 stroke gas. Great for your freezer, even better for the herd. Try to do it right before or during a real cold spell. Seems to guarantee a shed during a cold snap.

I use a bushell 3200 elite with firefly, but in 1.25-4.5x32mm. They do not make the scope anymore. This is my general advice with any scoped firearm for hunting in NY. -Lower power the better. Field of view at close ranges is very important. -Thick recticle to see it in low light or quicker shots better. -Buy a better scope mount than a scope. Or buy good both of them. I've seen much more scope mount failures than scope failures. I use a scoped muzzleloader as a loaner gun. My go to muzzleloaders are (1) a peep sighted lyman gpr flintlock with glow in the dark painted front sight, (2) a built by me 45 cal flintlock with open sights, or (3) a 45 cal caplock with open sights if the weather is on the nasty side. I do use the scoped inline when the weather is horrible. Better to use modern than nothing at all in my book.

I have had some luck using sign post trap setups. I burn a log and then make a fence post out of it. Seems coyots like to mark their territory. I place traps right there, or put a hole set upwind of it. Hunting itself will be very difficult. Far as fur bearers go up in the stillwater big moose area, there more fisher and mink to be had there. IT takes alot of work to get a coyote via trapping.

I ADK hunt or big woods walk style in PA for most of the days I am out. Most of the practice I do is with a similar 22lr rifle at 50 yards offhand. The same scope, the same weigh rifle, and similar trigger feel. I have tuned the trigger to match. I also have hollowed out the stocks to put in lead shot and polyeurathane. Sometimes I make a drill hole in the stock and cast a lead cylinder to fit it. MY limit is 100 yards offhand, which is long ways for most folks offhand shooting. I'd keep with the 30-06 you got. Just make it have good scope, better scope mounts, make the stock fit you too. 150gr is just fine. I use 180gr just incase I win a Moose tag in NH or go west to elk hunt. I reload, but use 180gr remington cor-lokt bullet heads and make the bullet velocity close to factory rounds. I help friends out with their guns. Mny poor performance issues surround cleaning practices. Some clean, but do not clean the copper out. I also have noticed folks swapping ammo types and brands tend to foul out their barrels sooner than others. I use good old stuff. Hoppes #9 to clean powder fouling, then I use a patch of rubbing alcohol to remove oil residue before copper cleaning. I use ammonia based old school cleaners. I run a patch or two wet, let it sit a minute or two. I then push a plastic bristle brush with a bit of the copper cleaner on it. I let that sit a minute or two. Push a dry patch or two. I then push a water wet patch to removeany residual ammonia. I repeat until the patches almost come out perfectly clear with no blue. The plastic bristles do not react with the ammonia. Most of my guns start to decline performance noticeably after 30-50 rounds. 200 yards is not much of a workout for my 30-06's, so I hunt with them clean A small change in impact on a clean vs dirty gun wont matter much.

Hey, you get one yet. TVM makes a quality gun.

There are plenty of guns to shoot long range. Any gun! I practice with a 30-30 and 450 marlin at 350 yards, I practice with a 270 win at 500 yards, same goes with 223 and 30-06. Long range shooters do not shoot the best out there, they practice alot. Factory seconds, budget bulk packs, or smaller weighing common calibers are the way to go. The US has used remington 700's in 30-06, 308, and 300 win mag. They used the M14. Long range shooting vs long range hunting. You can not guarantee an animal will keep walking the same speed, you can not guarantee when he will stop, slow down, speed up, start moving ,etc...... Between what your eye see and choosing to shoot is atleast a 1/2 second delay. Then the bullet has to get there. 400 yards is a 308 is a 1/2 sec. A 4mph average human walking speed is 5.8ft a sec. The moment you deciede to shoot a deer, if he starts to move, your bullet will be in his butt. Deer can get to walking speed very quickly. You can misjudge wind drift too, usually you think it's too much... MY hunting limit is 200 yards on a calm day. 150 yards if I havent practiced much over the past year.

I order online. I have used gamleil shooting supply, wideners reloading, and powder inc for traditional muzzleloading. After about 2 or 3 lbs, hazmat fee pays for itself. Utica Bass pro I believe still sells powder, they have it out back, ask the gun dept. IF ordering online, you can combine shipping with triple seven. If you like pellets over loose powder, I believe they combine with that too. I know primers have a separate hazmat fee. Traditional blackpowder I rhink you can combine with smokeless in the same box.

Let me rephrase this. Do you guys think my fertilizer got diluted too quickly from all this rain, and it either 4ft deep in the soil, or the neighbors have to mow more often now...... I did notice the apple tree grass perked up a bit better than the rest of the yard. But this is the 3rd time in 2 years I have put some fertilizer down in that area. Also, the shade from the trees likely helped the grass from going dormant during our early july dry spell.

I fertilized my clover plots with some 6-24-24. Pretty light about 100lbs an acre. I also put some 15-15-15 around the fruit and cover cedar trees. I did this last thursday right before the rain. We got plenty of rain though. Is it better to wait for rain?

Wait for a good week of moisture ans sun to heat those weed seeds, then disc it again. Just enough to scratch the surface will do. It'll kill those fresh weeds. Don't disc deeply, you'll just turn up deeper dormant seeds. The seeds sense they're near the top by temperature.

Use 6-24-24. We are not commercial farmers. Close is better than none at all. If doing clover, did you get micronutrient analysis? Clover and turnips need boron.

I mix pelletized lime with fine seed. I have had zero luck seeding straight up. I got an earthway carry spreader and a wheeled. Usually 4 bags of lime per acre. You can use a bag to practice the spread rate. Much much cheaper than wasting seed. Use a respirator when spreading. Typical homeowner sized wheeled spreaders don't do so well in off road food plot mode......

If you're tight on time this yeat, you may want to pass plowing. Figure in some rock picking time.

Tractor trailer tire is ideal, but s healthy sized pickup truck tire would work. I've seen folks bolt 3 car tires together too. Make sure you use good sized washers. An atv York rake would work ok too.

Clover plot is getting weedy. Mowed it yesterdaymorning after overnight thunderstorms. Thinking of not spraying me clover plot this year if we don't catch up on rain. I'm afraid it'll totally kill the clover.

Also, ferns usually mean ypu need plenty of lime.

A big tra tor trailer tire with holes drilled into the sidewall and good sized bolts and nuts going thtough. The exposed threads dig into the soil. Put a piece of plywood in the middle do you can add weight. Remove the weight or flip to the smooth side after seeding.

I prefer flail mowers too. They seem to cut the grass cleaner and cut it finer. My real preference is those small tractor belly mowers. Lawn mower blades, but beefier, and a bit more space in there for tall grass not to clog as bad. If you got a brush hog, keep the blades sharp. A clean cut makes recovery better for your forage.

U plant mid August too, or later. I llok at the weather. In a week or two, you can spray weed killer, plow spil, or mow weeds a week or two before spraying. I plow or till, then a week or two later do it agsin. It kills the freshly sprouted weed seeds. In modern farming herbicides have offset the amount or ground work done to soil. Old time farmers used to plow then till a week or so later. Bury the big stuff and kill the fresh stuff later.

Night vision scopes are not expensive. Fawn beats are the most responsive call for coyotes in my expenience.

That looks like a nice bow hunt spot. Mowing my plots tonight. Roughly 1/2 of the clover heads are good n brown, with little bumps in the petals.