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Actually Bert, if your camp wants some deer meat this year, I'd suggest you do invite us up! You guys have been hitting trees instead of deer this year so far. So dab on some Preparation H, and let us come up! LOL

You're a good guy Culver. Me and Doe will come up and help you out, if you let us hunt in some of your good spots and let us shoot bucks or doe, big or small. It will be our good deed for the year! It will almost be like helping a little blue haired old lady across the street. LOL

I would say most people hunt within a mile from a road or house/cabin. The majority probably less than 1/2 a mile. That is really not that far to walk. Even uphill. Me at age 50 and even my wife who doesn't hunt can do 6 or 7 mile hikes in the woods during the summer in a few hours time. I see way too many 20 something people not wanting to expend the energy for a short hike to their hunting stands. In my mind it's like WTF?? Are these people so lame?? If they can't do it at 25 years of age, they sure as hell won't be able to do it at 55, which is quite pathetic. These guys spend thousands on ATV's for only a handful of trips hunting, then lug it a couple of hundred miles to their hunting land, all this to avoid a short hike to their stand, and then maybe some dragging if they are successful??? To me this is almost unbelievable. Lets not even get into storing that bloody ATV for the other 11 months of the year. To each their own of course, and I surely can't stop these people from preferring to take this easy road. I can't stop them, and they can't stop me from once again calling them lazy a$$es.

Sorry, but there is way more tradition that revolves around gun hunting. The bow opener does not carry even close to the excitement, that the gun opener does. Never has and never will.

Because hunting used to be a vigorous type of outdoor activity, and now it's filled with a bunch of lazy a$$es who can't walk 150 yards to their stands!

I will give the benefit of a doubt to those using ATV's if they truly can't walk well, or are getting up in age, but from what I've seen, most of the people using them look perfectly capable to me. And some that are a bit less than capable are that way because they never exerted an ounce worth of energy their entire lives. I for one will contInue doing it the old fashioned way on foot, and when I can't, the gun and hunting coat will be hung up for good.

I'll give a tough old buck the 100, even 200 yards on a double lung penetration with any projectile, but I'd have to see it to believe that one went half a freaking mile!!

It amazes me how many hunters these days think that a deer can only be killed from tree stands. I've got some news for them. Leave that ATV behind too. Walking around a bit can many times be more productive than hanging on to a tree all day long. Being on the ground is a hell of a lot safer too. I' ll be damned if I'll break every bone in my body falling from a flimsy tree stand just to kill a deer!

That's one fond memory I have from opening mornings of yesteryear. NO sounds of ATV's! I know it will be hard for many to believe here, but hunters actually used to hunt on foot! LOL I guess it was somewhere in the 90's that hunters officially became lazy a$$es and needed motorized power to take them to where their feet used to.

Who's equating the two? My point is that there have been two common themes on this forum this Fall. Too much stolen property and way too many wounded and lost deer. Neither one is good.

If I had a dollar for every item stolen from people on this forum, along with a dollar for every deer wounded so far this Fall by forum members, I'd be able to go on a nice vacation.

Not that any music is very good these days, but I honestly don't know how anyone could listen to current day country music. It's atrocious. It all sounds the same, with absolutely NO originality. At least years ago country music had some great, memorable tunes that really stood out. These days you can't tell the difference from one melody to the other. Pathetic!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Lets-Talk-Limits-by-Dick-Metcalf-of-Guns-Ammo-December-2013.pdf And here is the article that started the uproar.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/us/guns--ammo-editor-resigns-after-gun-control-column/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 Hmmm, don't read many gun/hunting magazines anymore, but came across this today on CNN. So what's the scoop on this? Another Jim Zumbo type scenario? Some good comments below the article, too, from some sane gun owners.

These are all under legal age for sure. That poor chubby fella made a mistake following that girl into the woods. He'd much rather be sitting in McDonalds wolfing down a Big Mac.

We hear about that 14 pointer more often than most of us guys change our socks. Then again Geno wouldn't know a damn thing about changing socks since he hunts barefooted in flip-flops. LOL

That was my first thought, also. Her butt is way too small for an upstate gal. If it don't feel like rolling a hog when you get it on with her, then it ain't an upstate gal. LOL

It's a pilgrim running from a tomahawk wielding indian. As you can see he has been partially scalped already, and the indian wants to finish the job.

I would remain quiet and hope that they stopped walking and started doing something else...

I don't sit in a stand all day long, so I really don't get bored. Actually the time goes rather quick these days, compared to when I was young. As a teenager every hour in the stand felt like an eternity. Not anymore, that's for sure. A weekend hunt goes by so quick, it ain't even funny. I think if I had to sit in a stand the entire day, the cold and discomfort would get too me way sooner than boredom.

There are no rules, Doe. They can eat each others ribs, livers, etc. if they want. Bring in any weapon they want, where the can make head, lung, gut shots. Anything goes in there!

It's so funny. We have Belo and Shawnhu going at it on every thread it seems. LOL I think we need to put them in a steel cage and let them go at each other in there. They can rip out their choice parts from each other, and maybe some organ meats, too. LOL

No, not the challenge. In my case I don't see very many deer where I hunt. The ones you do see, you'd better make sure you find a way to put down, or you may not get to see another one in the remaining time you have left to hunt. In my case, the deer was within a reasonable distance to make a shot like that, I felt comfortable in making it, and I took it. End result was what I hoped for. Really no different than anyone else taking any other sort of shot. Hell, we've read enough stories so far this Fall of shots that hunters thought were slam dunks, yet didn't turn out that way.

I think if we use this argument, we could also say that someone would have even a greater chance of making a non-lethal hit on a deer, with the same poor aim, by aiming at the vitals. If you aim at the head with the same poor aim, you will most likely miss the deer completely. Not advocating head shots here, just trying to make a point. I will be honest and admit to several head shots. The head was the only part of the deer I saw, and was pretty sure that would be the only clear, non-running shot I'd get at it. I aimed and the deer fell instantly in all instances. Again, not advocating head shots, only saying that it could be done, by even an average good shot in the right circumstances.

.308 is the better deer cartridge, period. I personally would never even consider the .223. I find it funny how in recent years the .223 has all of a sudden become a deer round. I'm pretty sure it's the AR rifle craze that has led to this. Go back 20, 30 years or more and you NEVER heard anyone put the .223 in an adequate deer rifle cartridge category. The argument from the .223 side goes something like "But yeah, it could kill deer". Sure it can. A mallet over a deers head could kill it too, but do I want to use one under all the different circumstances one comes across while hunting deer??