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Some custom offices are checking 4457 forms against stolen gun database when you are getting inspection/stamp. They ran my stuff at Albany airport Customs when I had my last forms filled out. I did about a dozen guns and scopes ,and they ran the whole batch. I had to make an appointment for there, but all personnnel were very professional and prompt. I have never had incoming check for stolen at JFK; but other airports like Atlanta are notorious for checking incoming guns against data base making for LONG airport waits inbound.......need to schedual a long transfer time if you need to catch a connecting flight at some airports.

You need a Customs form #4457 which is a proof of ownership.... Most foreign countries happen to use that as a US firearms permit, although you can get one for any article of value you take travelling for proof you did not buy overseas. For example all my DLSR and lenses have 4457's. Once filled out they are good for as long as you own the article, so I have mine laminated. You can do a preprinted, prefilled out one on-line and then have customs do the inspection. If you plan on traveling more, I suggest you list each gun and or scope serial number on seperate forms so you can mix and match when packing. You can have this done at JFK.....but I HIGHLY suggest you get this done before your departure date. I cut it way to close on one trip as it took several hours to get someone to inspect and stamp form. Call where you are going as some Customs offices don't like folks walking in with guns and escort you from lot. If you must get inspection at JFK......on the first floor of the Internatonal terminal you will be departing and where arrivals are; the office for Customs is across from the center information desk/kiosk, and next to the currency exchange. You'll need some time for this.....atlest an hour from my and others experience. You DO NOT put TSA locks on the gun case! That case is to be opened only by you and you are supposed to have the only keys. TSA lock the ammo, a decent plastic pistol case works good for ammo, and placed in your luggage. At JFK.......you'll need a little extra time for Port Authority to inspect guns, which they do right there on the concourse. They ask for 4457's for serial numbers and check against guns, write your passport number in their log book. Pretty easy really, airline will page PA cops for you after you go up and check in/luggage tags and such. Air France has a good rep for handling guns, but I always have all the regs copied for counter folks just in case. Than you'll get walked over to TSA for usual inspection and guns are on the way to plane with other luggage. Coming home..... Gun cases will be with oversized luggage like baby strollers and such offf to one side where regular belts are. You can put one person there and one looking for other bags.....I travel solo and usually just wait at luggage and can see oversize across the room and keep an eye for gun. When needing to go through Customs, flag someone walking where the lines form and say you have a firearms....they'll usually walk you around all the lines and right back to ships office for a check. Took all of 5 minutes to get out of JFK last trip to get out of customs.......past May. One more caveat..... Want to be a big dude and express your 2nd amendment rights and cop an attitude about inspections and mouth off to TSA/PA/ the airline staff? Be ready to sit a spell and be flagged in the system forever. Say you have sporting firearms and try to be a little discreet, it'll make for a better trip. I seen others in a unfortunate position because of their big mouths. Just sayin' FWIW. I have flown more than a few times both international and domestic with firearms and have never had anything but good experience with all flights.

I needed a certicate for some paperwork and called DEC. Just needed aprox date and town where the course was held and had hunting one from 22 years ago in hand within 2 weeks....kudos to DEC..

Coyotes gotta eat too, ya poachers.

Holy crap that is the funniest thing posted here in months. Thanks.

But its apples and oranges, the experience is not the same. Frankly for having a good time for pulling the trigger a fair amount, accomodations,meals etc, many African plains game hunts are a bunch of fun.......have taken more than a few head of game there now. But I can't compare that to say a Caribou hunt other than a price.....or any other hunt I have done. You see a totally different enviroment/ecosystem for each one, different hunting styles....etc.

Nice pics and good luck with hunting season.......

Using an Aimpoint 9000sc on a Savage 220 (20 ga.) Shoots crazy good. Also run a Aimpoint H1 on a 8x57 and sometimes swap it to the 270Win, good performance in a tiny package for low light or dark targets.

Good luck Don.

Should do a group tree rat hunt......

Uhhh.....don't remind me. LOL Have a few maples turning here and there, same trees every year always go quick.

22's are all tuned up and ready to go.

I'll take the fifty if you're feeling generous......

LOL.......need me a Ted's hot dog one of these days. Work keeps getting in the way of a trip it seems..... Stuff is closing in on shipment from Namibia already and I need the cash for some taxidermy and tanning.....and to pay for next yeara trip.

They cook up pretty good as Buffalo style chicken wings.....deep fry the legs and toss in hot sauce and butter.

Good thing she takes after her mom.....

BW is a stud. Good stuff.

Class act Elmo.

LOL.....I have some warthog tusks as towel holders in the bathroom. Good to see some pics;<) Started late last fall working on a spot to consolidate mounts to an area and have been too busy to complete it with work and other activities. Have around 25 shoulder/pedestal mounts, some lifesizes and numerous skulls and skins that need hanging. Goal now is end of the year........I hope.

Run away from this idiot, he'll dumb you down to his level.

I'd laugh at you for getting all old and stuff.....but I'll catch back up to you in a few days myself. Happy birthday. PS. hope the FIL thing has a good outcome.

Ronnie Krause along with the head PH Johann Calitz are noted to be pretty good shots. Calitz is the one talking about the situation and carrying a double rifle. Really nice guy to talk to, although PH from my recent hunt had some other thoughts that were interesting. LOL After this, Calitz was stomped big time by a Cape Buffalo on a hunt gone bad. He was tagging along as he was a friend of the hunter but not the PH or outfitter for the hunt. PH couldn't speak english, and the lack of communication screwed the pooch. Took a buff horn, called "getting hooked", right between the femure and quads and tore him open pretty good. Broke him up inside too as I understand with internal injuries. Dangerous game for a reason. Been poking around for Leopard hunt and the PH I have been talking too got his arm gnawed on pretty good recently; on the mend OK and back hunting in a few days.

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Just got mine today; Nice article;<)

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