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The chance that the first buck you see each year will be a big buck is probably slim... especially for a treestand sitter.. now tracking is a bit different... usually the first buck I see is a big one.. killing him is the bigger problem..

Beautiful Buck!

Absolutely right Burt.. blur.. if you don't see the problem in this video, then I put you in the same class as these 2 idiots..its not about whether i can handle the blood and guts... or that it bothers me that they wounded the animal... thats not even the issue here.. the issue is the total lack of repect for the animal before dispatching it.. you might want to watch the video a few more times if you think that was humane!.. As you put it... please..GMAB!

Herb Philipsons is a good one I have bought some things there... they have higher end clothing.. and a good selection of hunting gear... not huge but a nice sporting goods store

Although this kind of hunting (tracking) isn't for everyone... I have always thought it is the most consistant way to kill bigger bucks if that is what you really want to do... There is a huge learning curve in the beginning.. but tracking is one of the most exciting ways to hunt, because the whole time you know the caliber of buck that you are tracking and the anticipation of him being just ahead gives you a rush like you can't imagine.

Go to the DEER Stories page and click on the links

Get him a trad bow... so much simpler! nothing really changes but the brace height.

I'll agree that is an issue as well

You couldn't tie one of these guys up and get the into a treestand..lol.. they are diehard trackers to the core and the most adept at it as any hunters in the country. They simply find a track and dog the buck.. Jim's buck he actually wounded in the shoulder and caught up to it 4 days later and finally killed him. Joe picked up his bucks track 3 days before killing it.. going back into the same area and picking up each day on where he left the track the night before until finally catching up to the buck in an evergreen swamp.. not sure about Steves buck

Unlike us sitting at our computers, the DEC is in a position where it must not only manage the deer, but it has to manage the hunters. Their most important tool that has no replacement yet in managing populations, is the hunter. Their whole existance involves a balancing act between managing the herd and maintaining their hunter base so they can manage the herd. I honestly believe it is that reality that explains their current position on AR. I totally agree.. It is a balancing act and always will be .. but i personally think that the change would have to be drastic to decrease the numbers of hunters to the point where it would be a problem.. I don't hunt or not hunt because of the rules in place, I hunt because I love it.. and I'm sure thats th case for most of the hunters here..any decrease in hunter numbers over the years is more related to social differences that regulation changes.

My God they'll sell like hotcakes at that price!!

Ok I'm stealin" that quote.. excellent!

I agree its good the way it is... but could we make it better... I think so.

They may be off the wall to you, but a lot of others don't think so. As far as taking away opportunities, there will always be hunters that feel slighted somehow .. even if everything is left alone... that shouldn't be a huge criteria when coming up with something that works well for the deer. I'd be the first to oppose anything that wasn't good for the deer herds.. so far I haven't heard any GOOD arguments against QDM style management plans. Not being able to take the buck you want doesn't wash with me, because they are currently taking away my right to shoot a buck with 2 -7/8" antler without burning up a doe tag

Regardless of when a yearling buck moves from one area to another or where he moves to... he still becomes a bigger buck if he is allowed to live. I'm all for passing up a young buck to help him get bigger for another guy to take when he is bigger.

Looked to me like two bucks running away from some kind of trouble... didn't look like chasing at all

I talked to Joe this evening and found out that this is number 15 big buck out of the last 16 years in the adirondacks... he is a dairy farmer and only gets a few days a year to hunt too.

I'm not sure.. I just noticed it..lol

That is actually the best idea you've come up with yet!!... and it still stinks ;D

Joe, The DEC has no clear estimate as to how many deer inhabit the state. FYI, google deer in Greenich CT where an INFRARED flyover was performed some time ago. It is eyeopening and was expensive! The statement was more to the point of no matter what the population... there will always be areas where generalizations don't apply and there will be guys dissatisfied with certain DEC decisions based on their own observation of the deer herd in their area. Or basically, you can't please everyone no matter what.

Took the words right out of my mouth.. saved me some typing.. thanks

Agreed that is why I take my does during the late muzzleloader...

My very close friends, and probably the most well known Adirondack trackers in NY, Jim Massett(left)and Joe Dinito(middle) with Steve Grabowski(right)display their snowy adirondack bucks taken the last weekend of the Northern Zone season. I believe Joe has taken twelve such Adirondack bucks in the last 13 years.

Any doe will bring in a horny buck.. killing an older doe just makes room for the younger does to come up and take her place... without the young one there is no deer to take her place.

yeah.. i agree .. also a good recipe for goose