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I don't agree with a neck shot either. Or a spine shot! I was taught and live by the simple rule of "the right shot at the right angle, to the vitals ( heart/lung )". I just stated what was said on other sites. I also would never use a 22 caliber for deer. In any of its forms! But, what we do, believe, and say are different from one to another. The best we can do is offer advice and hope the person listens and uses that advice. As for that aught6 comment......I think the point was made on how I feel about that. I guess using a 50# sledge to drive roofing nails in is now on my bucket list LOL

That's part of hunting. Do you wear a micro heater in your shorts? LOL. I hate shivering too! But a shiver goes away real fast when a deer or turkey is in range! When you get that really bad cold shake it's time to call it a day. Maybe the point was missed.

I am going up in a week to get wood piled up for camp.. Just confirmed that one. I plan to ask permission to hunt the right and backside properties, as well as an adjesent property. The back will be a pain! The woman who owns that has a bunch of so called Suffolk CO. Sherrifs that drop in there. They went around emptying Glock mags while drunk and on a moving side by side. They showed us the video. They laughed, I puked! I think I will set up the ladder about 200 yds from our camp overlooking the swamp and a small flat area. Then use the natural blinds to sit in on occasions for wind and movement. Thanks for the help folks. I really do appreciate it.

The title make not make sense to most, so here goes....... I am an outdoorsperson! I love hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, snowboarding, camp fires, tents, tall tales, great food cooked over a fire or coals, and a cold beer ( Domestic ). I like having civilized conversations with peole who are like minded! I love waking up to the smell of still hot coals and a stream/pond/lake! I love seeing great groups of arrows from my bow! I love shivering on a cool or cold morning during a hunt, or fishing, camping or riding the lift! I love cooking ribs, chops, steak, or chicken over camp fire coals low and slow! I love the adreline you get when a deer walks past you at 20 yds and doesn't know you are there! I love the adreline when a big bass hits a buzz bait! I love being on stand ( tree stand/blind/sitting against a tree ) and hearing the woods wake up! I love watching the sun rise and set! I love beeing more then 300 yds from my house! I love camping where no one else camps! I LOVE BEING OUTDOORS! So, I tip my hat in respect to anyone who enjoys the same things.

You had no luck on ebey, Amazon, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, or the company you bought the cam from? Maybe a bungee chord?

I already said that. OP said he was using a .308 and wanted a challenge. OP seems dead set on usin a 22-250, so I offered what I could find on ammo and that a lot of people say the twist might be off on certain rifles using the hevier bullet. I would never do it, but who am I to tell anyone what to shoot or not shoot? I am not God! As long as it's a legal caliber, and they use the smaller calibers with common sence and hit the range to know wher they are hitting on impact, who are any of us to judge?

Scent? What's that? I figure opening day I will just drive a tank into the woods. C'mon! LOL Might be good for a gun. don't think I could have drawn a bow inside an old abandoned car. LOL Just picked out my stand. 2 man ladder. I like my space! Still up in the air about placement. Main food sources are about a mile away. So they hit the bedding area and the swamp both morning and evening. The buck I was chasing last year was on the back of the swamp, and had scrapes and rubs around our camp and near a stream bed that is only 15 yards from the road. OH, this is the NZ. So it has to be set up for a buck.

Yaeh..Thank you wooly I appreciate the link...I am 4 hours from that area. LOL. Not saying my descision. Not that anyone cares. LOL Will post pics tomorror or Wed.

Most of the natural blinds I have already are on a hill side/top. One is on the flat as it looks over the bedding area and that is on flat ground. Like I said, Just curious how people would set up for only one stand. I just eliminated the ground blind. No need to buy something I can make more of. A few down branches and I could always use a camo tarp as a roof ( or walls for that matter ). So I am looking at a ladder stand and an umbrella. Also, I would never actually set up on a "deer run".

Think I made my descision. Either going tomorrow or Wed to make the purchase. Will post pics after purchase.

I get that. I meant I find it odd that the hell dogs seem to be able to get through heavy snow and strive. Then again, I have watched my Husky go through 3 feet of snow like nothing. She looks like a fish swimming but she does it. I have no issues with the antherless restrictions. But, I also don't want to turn grows thread into yet another battle about that topic. So, I am trying to lean more towards hunters being able to slap the hell out of the yote population all year.

Right. Got it. Never thought about it, but I usually set up like that on habit anyway. The less you turn the body the better, I do get that. I know the land. It's not mine but I have a camp with the owners son. We walk and ATV all summer. I know the borders and and I even knew where the turkey would have been if I had gotten out in May. I know the boundries, I also have permission to hunt the land on one side, but have to get permission for the other yet. Wii ask a few weeks when I head up for a weekend. While riding we have seen deer 10 feet off the trail and they just look at us while still chewing on w/e. Most of the time they don't even run, they just walk off while we sit there on running fourwheelers.

Post a map........LOL! Good one WNY! I have a few natural ground blinds I made last summer and last fall to hunt different locations on a given time of day/wind/etc. I want something so I can still get out on light rain or mist days. Something with a water proof roof. I really am leaning towards a ladder stand. They are stable enought to help with a fear of heights. The only reason I was thinking bought blind is even though it's not a great idea, I can move it. The deer in the area ar used to people, ATV's, tractors... and they even use our camp as a toilet in the summer. LOL. So I doubt movint it would bother them. Left to right in front of me?...Most of the natural blnds are like that. Not sure why that would matter though. Would love to hear why this would be relevant. They do move in the evening from a small swamp and the bedding to a pond. The pond is on land I don't have permission to hunt. YET! Now I will have to ask.

That's a good question grow. Two years ago while at camp in the NZ we heard coyotes take a fawn ( that was pretty disturbing to hear in the middle of the night to say the least ), and heard them on and off all night everytime we were up there. Last summer they lit us up and 8:30pm one night and the next night at around 1:30am. They were close, within 100 yds. Has to be a den, but we can't find it. My buddies father told me to kill any of them I see. I would love to do that, but in the sumer there's no season. He has chickens, goats, and other animals he raises, so he wants them gone. He had a trapper up there for 3 years and the trapper got nothing! Not even a straying pup! Coyoye numbers are way up everywhere. We need an all year season on them to reduce the numbers. The really odd part is, in many areas the snow was deep and I really don't get how the damn hell dogs were able to gain in numbers so much this past winter.

If you only had one ladder stand or blind to use ( you know the land and where/how the deer are moving, bedding etc ) what would you do? Where would you place it? Wind is huge I know that. But....If you only had one would you set up near a water source, just out of the super thick bedding area, or over the area they are walking through? I am leaning towards setting up near the bedding area. I cannot use a climber so that's out of the question.

I have no qualms with anyone using a 22-250 for deer, I have never done it so I did some research, and just posted what I found on many different sites. They also say neck shot is the best to make a clean kill as already mentioned.

A 30-06 not enough for bear? Really? Tell that to anyone who has taken a bear with a recurve, compound, or crossbow. That said, after looking around a bit it seems many people like the 60gr Nosler Partition for deer. Also after looking they recommend checking the twist rate in the barrel as the basic twist doesn't take well to the heavier bullet. Doesn't stabalize right. EDIT: After looking a bit more they also recommend not shooting at a deer over 100 yds.

My old bow is dust. Too much to fix. Needs a new almost everything. Somewhere I posted a pic of it. The bows that fit me the best were a PSE Stinger and a used Mathews ( I don't remember the model ). They felt good and were pretty smooth. I have to go back with my release and see if things work the same. Also, the PSE will be a bare bow, I have sites and a rest I put on my old bow last season, so no need to buy the RTS deal. The Mathews was RTS as well, but being used it was $100 less leaving a bit of cash to upgrade my arrows. The 7mm-08 was nice, but no scope and no sights, so a scope would be a must. I made an error on my OP. The shotgun I looked at was a used Ithica 37 FL in 12 ga, not 20. Sorry about that. I had one of these in the past, they kick like 2 mules and a horse. LOL That has scope mount already on it, and a smooth bore barrel, so I could use rifled slugs and still use shot for turkey and not have to buy a new barrel right away. Another reason I am thinking gun is a lot of the land I hunted last year has been trashed, so I will be doing more NZ hunting. So a gun won't really shorten my seaon at this point.

Went to a few places and shot some bows. Had someone help me with my issues using a release. I have to tell ya, I shot 5 bows, using a release they supplied, at 10 and 20 yards I was dead on but either about 4 inches right or left depending on the bow. I think I am hooked! Shooting a bow I have never had in my hands before and being that accurate felt great! But, I am himming and hawing right now. Oh, I know the bow I want! But....I also looked at a few used rifles and shotguns. So, I am torn between giong back to a firearm or sticking with archery. I enjoy bow hutning becasue you really have to have your $*** on point! Super quiet and taking a deer in 25 yards takes a little more skill with a bow then dropping a deer at 200 yards with a cannon. Gun hunters step back! I am not saying gun hunting doesn't take skill! On the gun side, the only legal buck I saw last year was 70 yds out, gave me a few nice angles to have taken a shot with a gun, but never came any closer. Hence, I am not sure which direction I will go. If the money was there, I would have a nice 7mm.08 or 20 guage, and a new bow right now!! Alas, I have to make this descision, and fast.

My brother and I used to hunt them, sort of. We would walk the streams, creeks, swamp, edges ...etc, and catch them by hand. That was 30 years ago, so I do not remember what the regulations were back then. My brother would take care of the killing and cleaning, and make soup. I always liked it and ate more then my share. I remember a lot of walking carrying a 5 gallon pail. Most times we didn't find anything. Used to hunt frogs with an air rifle or pistol as well. Now that I really want to get back into!

Never carried a firearm hiking. Never felt the need to. On a few back country camping trips we have taken a .22 or a shotgun, or those with a pistol permit would carry. Most of the time we just never felt a need to have one everytime we walked into the woods.

Would have called authorities, given them 10 minutes to respond, then I would have killed the bear. If a bear will track deer into your backyard without fear, the next time could be far worse. A bear that size could bust your door open easily, whether you are home or not. Also, seeing it took that deer in your yard, it will remember that area as a food source. Sorry, but the safety of my family and pets out weighs nature.

I am a fan of all three originals, and I liked the way they took the reboot. I am hoping Netflix picks this one up, but no holding my breath.

Hunting deer or spring turkey from my camp on my own land. Nothing fancy for me anymore.

It doesn't matter what you post, even when you are right, you're wrong in here. Some of the recent posts are just wrong. But, it it was it is. You either conform or get harassed and ignored. Every things an argument. You add that to the FACT that there are people with more accounts and personalities then Sybil...You get what you get. Want proof, people will attack me for posting this. Edit! Oh, and it's a NY hunting forum/site ( ha ha ), but more people worry about what happens in other states then right here!