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Because they are trying to suppress harvest numbers. If they opened it to gun you'd have an even smaller chance of that rare doe permit. Unfortunately for you if you lived a bit further south or west in new york you could get all the tags you need. In my area we all got DMPs guaranteed before october and then anybody who showed up on Nov 1st was able to get two more. That's 7 tags total year after year.

I would like everybody to go up to the second post and hit like. Come on, people, that is funny right there. As a bow and now xbow hunter I'm all in favor of shortening gun season to one day. Gun results in a massive cull of deer population. More for me the merrier Just kidding, mostly. I agree the seasons is pretty good now. October and some of nov for some pretty fair weather hunting, then if you have another 4-5 weekends of gun that should be enough to get it done.

I bet the G5 montec would have. Unless it snapped at the insert. I'm sure it has happened but when I google gt montec break I get one hit on it and it's a very popular head. Same search for rage almost breaks the internet. Granted, rage is also a very popular head and any mechanical is going to be much weaker than a single piece of metal.

The blades are another matter. I used my vertical on two deer with rage chisel tip in october and I sharpened and cleaned up all four blades (two per head). I used one of these on a deer a couple of days ago (xbow) and one blade went completely missing. No idea where it went, and the other blade snapped at one of its parts so although it is still there I can't re-use it. The chisel tip looks fine (didn't spin test yet), but the price or replacement blades is almost as high as entire heads with blades. It was a nice lung shot but the blades went to hell hitting ribs. I absolutely will use these again simply because I think accuracy is by far the most important aspect of any head and these shoot well.

My climber has a rail and I sit the xbow on that the entire time. Same with vertical.

I'm surprised you'd question how it would impact another's hunting. The fact that buck no longer exists would. Last couple years (not this one thank God) I had to hunt public land. It was hard with very few deer, and that became even worse with gun season. Certainly as you opened up availability you'll get increased pressure. Bow is nice because other than those who physically can't do it anymore, it separates the casual from the determined. Bow only provided me a way to increase odds on public land.

I've seen a lot of deer including while in the stand. If it's any consolation my last year and the one prior were grinds. I would go many hunts between seeing deer. Last year was unbelievable. I got a deer first day of bow and then I went out a bit more than 20 times and only saw two deer that entire time while in stand--of any kind. I averaged one deer seen every 8 times hunting (not including those I kicked up on the way in or out). For what it's worth in my limited experience I'd say there are multiples of deer near a camera than those you actually see onit. Deer go behind, camera fails to fire at the right time, etc.

I had never seen it. Awful way to go but great footage on the cam. Too bad really for the deer as one good smack from the antlers would take the fight out of a coyote.

The nice thing about the G5 is that if it doesn't open it's essentially just a small fixed. To your point shot placement is so important...if you double-lung with any broadhead the deer is done, and fast, guaranteed. I only think broadhead really matters if you hit badly. So if you hit shoulder you want something with super penetration (probably a fixed or tiny mechanical). If you hit behind the lungs you want as much cutting as possible because you have nothing to penetrate and want to maximize the non-vitals damage. The deadmeat looks cool but the price is pretty damn ridiculous. $49 at dicks, $55 on G5's store. For 3 broadheads.

I think I did circles. I'll try your approach though.

I startex xbow hunting this year and I am still against full inclusion. As for paper plate accuracy at 60 yards with a compound. I go to a range a good number of times each bow season. I started in 2015. There have been, in this time, a grand total of two people I have ever seen use the 50 yard target: me, and some other guy who was extremely good. Of literally 100% of all the other guys I've seen practicing virtually all of them are never going out past the 30 yard target and I once saw another guy (last year) use the 40. And on one arrow he also missed the target entirely (he was off that weekend to elk hunt). Most of the guys I see who are bow hunters at my range have paper plate accuracy at 20 yards. The better ones have paper plate at 30. Most bow hunters can't even dream of hitting a paper plate consistently at 60 yards with their vertical. Xbow is more lethal. Everybody in this thread knows it. And it's why I am against full inclusion; for selfish reasons I want to keep a month of even less pressure. Xbow is still immensely more difficult than gun. It is certainly more like vertical than gun, but it is a more lethal implement with a lower learning curve and far easier to pickup and be capable with than a vertical.

I have spent a long time playing with a montec on a fine stone getting it as sharp as I can. I can't get them "Gillette razor sharp". I can get them about as sharp as they came from the store (I have some from store unused to compare), which is pretty sharp but not sharp enough to shave with. My Rage 2 might come a touch sharper (and they are massively more difficult to resharpen). I really don't think it matters. I just don't buy into the idea that if they are pretty sharp but not crazy insane cut your hair sharp that they won't do the same job--that they will "push flesh out of the way instead of cutting it", which doesn't make any sense to me but some people say it. How exactly do the physics work that a broadhead coming through a deer's body at 200+ FPS is doing anything but cutting what is in front of it and, due to slight bluntness, is slipping in between organs that helpfully move out of the way briefly so that the broadhead can get through--that the flesh is "riding up" on the blade similar to trying to slowly cut yourself with a butter knife. Move a blunt butter knife past your hand at 200 FPS and it will slice it. I think the G5 can take an edge as much as is needed. I broke two rage blades on a deer yesterday. They are not that expensive but I bet that the montec would have held up. I just wish they would group well on my xbow!

My rangefinder won't do angles, but you're interested in horizontal distance to target (that perpendicular to force of gravity) and nothing else. Although at a deeply mathematical level this is not entirely accurate, for hunting purposes it is. So I measure horizontal distance when range finding and pick a tree and target as high up on that tree as I am; base of a tree may be 32-33, but at the same height as me maybe it's 30. This way I know to hit a point on that tree I actually use 30. And although a deer standing next to it is literally 33 yards away due to the angle of me in the tree, again I use 30 because if I were on the ground it would only be 30 yards away. I can't speak for anyone else but there are people who gun hunt with fixed magnification at, say, 4X out to a couple hundred yards (maybe more?). I love magnification, too, but 3X truly is plenty for a crossbow. It's enough to "aim small" but even at 60 yards it's like the thing is only 20 yards away.

I do the same thing so when they come by I already know the range. Also I used a high end printer to make a tiny charge of the ballistics from spot-on. I don't really like BDC on guns even though all my scopes are nikon BDC, but this way I can adjust the scopes for anything out past 100 (in theory).

I'm using Nikon XR. It's a "cheap" nikon scope, so it only pulls 92% light vs their higher end models pulling high 90's. That said, it blows away the stock scope on my budget bow, and at first and last light it is plenty bright enough to see game. Further to wildcat's point I also wonder why you'd need a lighted reticle if the scope is decent and you're shooting legal hours. Their spot-on app particularly on this scope is an okay starting point but you'll almost certainly want to confirm with a range finder. For me it's 20/30/45. I wish it could be 20/30/40/50 but oh well. 3X magnification really is plenty for xbow. You can still see everything nice and clear out through even far xbow ranges.

Funny thing is if I could get any Xbow now it would either be the $1500-2000 Ravins (not NY legal) or the $140 barnette recruit recurve, because man $140 for a "bow" capable of killing a deer? That seems so cheap I am very intrigued.

Enjoy your new stand. Leave a note that they can get it but they were trespassing. My guess is they do not come and claim it. Goodluck, Grow. As for the doe I took this morning, turns out it was in fact a button. Not a large deer (smallest I've ever shot actually). I took it to the butcher and slapped it down next to a bunch of bucks. That will be some expensive meat per lb, as he charges a flat rate.

Best upgrade for the Sniper 370: jam up that damn adjustable stock. I knew it was clicky and made noise but wasn't sure it would matter because I am careful. I got a deer today with the sniper, but it was so early in the day I thought let's try for a double (and I could see the first was down so no tracking to worry about). An hour later a doe comes into range, perfect shot. I shoulder it. Click. There is the stock seating. And there's that white tail. I've since run some tape around it and the lever so that it's quiet and won't cost me again. As for the deer, it was a pretty small deer in truth, but the rage 2 blade blew right through it for probably the best vitals shot I've ever had, at 30 yards.

I bought it because it was $210 shipped for a Sniper 370. I knew I'd need arrows and then I'd be good. I didn't realize (I know I should have of course) I'd also "need" a new scope. So now I'm out $400 (oops I also spent $150 on targets lol). Since I'm hunting from virtually the same tree as with my vertical it does occur to me exactly why I got it. I got it in part because in a year or two my daughter could use it. I also hoped it would increase my range a bit and I'd say it has by at least 10 yards. In fact, the one deer I've gotten so far with it (today) I only got because of it; had I been using vertical I would have been about 10 yards closer to a corn field, which would have made the shot on this deer 40 yards and that's getting dicey for sure. Funny thing is the same xbow today cost me a deer. Another walked by at 20 yards and the noise from shouldering it caused the deer to run. My vertical it would have been game over. So, I don't know. They are cool and they are powerful, I guess that's it! My wife knows. They are hard to hide. Harder than an extra long gun in the safe

Done. Just got my first xbow kill two min after sunrise. 30 yards. Ran about 40. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nice frosty morning. Great weather for a sit. Good luck everyone. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My rage chisel tip came with one so loose it literally fell apart in my hands out of the package. Thank God I had the very small allen key needed to tighten. I'm currently running the rage chisel tip on my crossbow. I attribute the very significant entry wound from the two inches cutting surface to my ability to recover a deer a few weeks back on a dubious shot that resulted in virtually no blood trail (would have been less without the entry).

Interesting. Is it backed up by research...? I've heard farmers generally hate coyotes but I don't know why. At least if I had a crop farm I'd want them nearby as they help suppress deer population, which can damage crops.

Squatchy. Gonna be out in the AM and bag my first doe with crossbow. I know nothing is guaranteed but feel really good about it happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You know I like bowhunting but...I started carrying an xbow on saturday To be honest though I haven't found my heavy clothing really gets in the way of the bow.