Steve D

https://www.midwayusa.com/28-gauge-2-3-4/br?cid=23036 OOPS looks like it is all shot

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After living on a lake while having our house built I can honestly say I would rather live in the woods. While living on the water is nice it is almost impossible to find the perfect piece of property. In our area homes on the water are crammed together and you could spit and hit your neighbors house and few if any lots are level. While I like what the water has to offer I will take a quite place in the woods any day.

I personally never take a shot at a running deer. I always thought it was expected to make a shot you would be confident in ending with a good hit. Low odd shots are not for me regardless of what I am carrying. I would rather let them walk first.

I tend to be a sucker for puppies.... especially hound types. New gimmicks for hunting that I think will work. AND

DEC Announces Rainbow Trout Sampling Dates for Finger Lakes 03/08/2018 DEC Announces Rainbow Trout Sampling Dates for Finger Lakes New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Regional Director Paul D'Amato today announced the dates and locations for the annual sampling of the rainbow trout run in Finger Lakes tributaries. This year, sampling is scheduled for: Thursday, March 22, 9 a.m., at Naples Creek, just north of the Village of Naples, Ontario County, at the Route 245 bridge Friday, March 23, 10 a.m., at Cold Brook (Keuka Inlet) in the hamlet of Pleasant Valley, Steuben County. DEC is conducting the sampling to aid in the ongoing assessment of Finger Lakes fisheries management practices and to provide up-to-date information for the opening day fishing forecast. During sampling, data taken on each fish, including length, weight, sex, and spawning condition. A scale is used to determine age and growth rate. Sampling results will be available to the public at the DEC Region 8 fisheries office prior to the April 1 opening of the "inland" trout fishing season. Anglers wanting to fish for trout before April 1 are reminded that trout fishing is open year-round in the main bodies of the Finger Lakes. Directions to Naples Creek: Sampling will start at the Route 245 bridge, just north of the Village of Naples. Route 245 joins Route 21 just north of the village. The Route 245 bridge is approximately 0.2 to 0.3 miles from the junction with Route 21. Directions to Cold Brook: From the Avon DEC office, take I-390 south, continue on Southern Tier Expressway (Route 17/ Interstate 86) south to Exit #38 in Bath. Turn left off Exit # 38 onto Washington Street (Route 54) and continue straight through the intersection of Rt. 415, turn left (north) at next light following Route 54 (Liberty Street). Continue on Route 54, approximately six miles to Pleasant Valley. Turn left onto Hammondsport-Pleasant Valley Road (County Route 88). Sampling site is at stream crossing, approximately 1/2 mile.

With a 16" barrel I doubt it will be enjoyable to shoot. The 16 inchers are loud. How were you able to buy it when it is "non-compliant" and the registration option is closed?

Like I said before...to each their own. I have been successful with it and will continue to use it. 5 out of 5 with no tracking or losses is good enough for me: Here is a "pasted" article on the subject. Not trying to convince anyone to use it. Storm914 asked the question and I replied based on my experience. One of NRA’s contracted experts, Richard Mann, helped develop the Bullet Test tube. (It’s slightly harder material than the gelatin used in Federal’s test.) Mann tested Federal’s loads in it and on deer, and here’s what he found: “The .223 Remington is a suitable cartridge for hunting deer, within its limitation. This cartridge relies on velocity to drive the lightweight bullets deep. This same velocity contributes to tissue damage. The key to using a .223 Remington on deer is to keep impact velocities high. In other words don't shoot deer much beyond 150 yards. Past that distance, the velocity drops below the level needed for dynamic bullet expansion. When robustly constructed bullets like the Barnes TSX, Nosler Partition and Fusion are used inside 150 yards, penetration with the .223 Remington is on par with cartridges like the .243 and the .30-30 Winchester.” Ok, so we heard from the nerds in the lab coats, what do the guys that shoot deer for a living think? My friend John Shaw has killed more deer than anyone I know—he’s managed an exotic game farm, worked on a Texas whitetail ranch, passionately hunts whitetail in numerous states using the .224 and .22-250. He has also culled scores of does for meat, depredation, and management purposes. John has this to say: “I rely on my 22 centerfires more so than any other caliber. Low recoil and the typical pinpoint accuracy found in rifles of .224 caliber allow for careful shot placement. If you treat hunting with your .223 much like bow hunting and wait for the perfect shot, there is no reason that this caliber should not be considered for many applications. However, bullet choice is a major factor. Shots to the central nervous system with any type of bullet will work but I recommend premium, controlled expansion bullets, such as Barnes Triple Shocks, Nosler Partitions, and Trophy Bonded Bear Claws. Typically, I keep shots under 200 yards but animals hit in the shoulder, heart, and lung region with a quality bullet expire quickly." The Conclusion I’m not saying the .223 is the perfect whitetail bullet, I wouldn’t pack it on a trophy hunt or where long shots were likely but, with the right bullet, it is a legitimate choice for some big game animals. With big game bullets ranging in weight from 55gr. to 70gr., it’s versatile at a range of velocities.

The .223 is a very versatile caliber. It is not only a varmint caliber. There are at least 17 different bullet configurations from .36 gain to .80 grain bullets that can be loaded. I wouldn't shoot a moose or bear with it but it is more than adequate for a lot of game. It has been known to totally destroy a coyote or fox making the fox or coyote worthless if not loaded properly. They shoot well out of my Browning A-bolt . But to each their own. And besides...the .17WSM would be a much better choice over the .17 HMR

None I have shot have gone over 25 yds. and most drop within a couple of steps. The v-max hit and blow up inside doing tremendous damage. The draw back to them is there is little or no blood trail and if they should hit something along the way ie golden rod, tree branch, etc. they disintegrate. The one at 250 was in a cut cornfield with no obstructions.

I'd have to say looking at the same one every day is better than looking at a new one every time you turn around but I am a creature of habit and not a big fan of drastic changes.

While most will argue it isn't a good caliber for deer I have shot 5 using the Hornady 60 grain V-max with the longest shot being 250 yds.

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Amother "simple" test is to stand with your arm extended, closed hand, and point your thumb straight up. With both eyes open put your thumb on a object. Close each eye one at a time. Whichever one doesn't move from the object is the eye you should be shooting with. If neither one moves you can shoot left or right. If they both move from the object you are not going to hit anything anyways so it doesn't matter which one you use.

First of all you are responding to a post that is 5yrs. old. Hunting on state land is not going to solve the problem because it is not unusual for a coyote to cover 8-10 miles during a chase and may very well end up on private land. Most coyote hunters are responsible and make every attempt to obtain permission for the areas they hunt and it is not a common practice to "free cast". That being said it is unlikely that most hunters would be able to obtain permission from every landowner in a 8-10 mile radius. You can't stop a dog from doing what it is bred to do and it can be very difficult to stop a dog from running a coyote on property his owner does not have permission for. Most hunters will not pursue their dogs on property they do not have permission for and will attempt to catch it when it comes out on a nearby rd. or area they have permission. While I have heard both sides of the argument I don't believe the "Supreme Court" will be the one to settle it. The only way to completely stop it would be to make coyote hunting with hounds illegal. Landowners are people and coyote hunters are people. When people talk to each other; problems can get resolved but in today's world everybody wants to stop what the other is doing or wanting without taking the time to understand each other and compromise. Lighten up and try to understand BOTH sides of the issue.

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I would be willing to bet there are more cell phone related deaths than gun related deaths among kids. I happen to agree and both of mine grew up to be responsible self providing adults. That is what doing right by the kids represents instead of handing them a cell phone and send them on their way. Parenting is very hard, requires a 24/7 commitment, and the ability to make some difficult decisions.

If I had my way they would have a age limit of 21 on cell phones and a background check before purchasing.

Hell of a drive but I have an extra room if you need it.

If I did that is where they would stay because I am not having my stones laying on the floor next to them.

There isn't enough hard drive space on this forum to address this issue so I am not even going to try. Might be something to discuss for a couple of hrs. over a beer but I would probably end up choking you. You really should get out of the city and experience what some other people in the state think about him and his money grabbing policies.

Great picture and not a cell phone in sight, Great way to spend a day

That explains a lot........Hope you and Andy sleep well tonight and may dreams of higher taxes dance in your head.

Your high taxes are going to support Cumo's wet dreams. Has nothing to do with the utilities. Everyone pays utilities & taxes...just yours are higher...you have my condolences. Enjoy your electric.