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People will probably be hired to do this to anyone the government tells them to do it to. Then they will boast about how many jobs they created......at taxpayer expense of course.

No, I would just assume the corrupt didn't accomplish what they wanted to accomplish with the vote rigging. It would also mean far more people voted for their opposition then they expected and they couldn't override it with illegal votes. That's what happened to them when Trump was elected. They didn't plan on the amount of support he got and weren't prepared for it. We need to install a fool proof verification system at the voting booth. How about a NICS check on everyone who wants to exercise their right to vote? The left does the opposite. They want to insure everyone can vote, vote often and continue to vote after they're dead.

"I have also fought to create new opportunities for law abiding citizens to exercise their right to use guns." This is the biggest lie in that e-mail. Has he supported concealed carry in the 5 boroughs? Has he advocated for more shooting ranges, gun safety programs or easing transport laws? No. Not only has he not "created new opportunities", he's done all he can to eliminate many of them.

Notice also his use of the word "comprehensive" referring to background checks. That means "encompassing everything they can think of as a reason to deny your right to have a firearm". They get to decide what disqualifies you. Remember, they want to look at your 'thoughts" on social media too. What thoughts will they decide make you a threat?

Notice how Schuner refers to the "collective" in that e-mail.

It's obvious from his reply that Schumer believes the right to bear arms is NOT a Constitutional Right. He intends to transform it into a government granted privilege by license. When that happens, the government can use any type of issue as a disqualifier. A right does not require government permission. It can be removed only if someone commits a felony. Preventative law is unconstitutional and has never been proved to actually prevent crime. I agree with a ONE TIME background check to obtain a firearms ID card. Once you have passed the government NICS check, you should be allowed to buy ANY firearm, at ANY time, and carry it on your person and use it to defend yourself in accordance with the laws of self defense. Unless due process in a court of law removes your right, the government should never be able to question any of your firearms or their use. Also, with such a system. the government does NOT know, or have any business knowing, how many firearms, or what type of firearms. you own. Schumer is well aware of this proposed system which completely preserves the rights of all responsible firearm owners, and he REJECTS it! Why? Because he wants it to be a government controlled privilege. It's all about power and control.

I convinced not as many people voted for Cuomo as the election claims. I no longer trust the election results in the state of NY. The corruption has exceeded the point of having any trouble manipulating the election results to favor a leftist Democrat. The recent report on the dwindling tax revenues in NY, proves many NY residents really are leaving the state. Many on here are planning to leave ASAP, including me. That will serve to exacerbate the dwindling tax revenue problem, for which Cuomo will respond with even higher taxes on those who stayed, eventually forcing many more to leave and the state getting even less revenue. Airline pilots coined a phrase for this situation. It's a "death spiral". That's what's at the end of this trip.

And this fool will raise taxes on those who are still here to try and make up for it, only to find tax revenues will go down more, because more people will leave.

If it was 228 dressed, it must have been 280 or more on the hoof.

The big issue is finding a good buck track to start with. That could take days. Even if it's a fresh track, that buck could be a mile ahead of you when you start. Larry Benoit was the first hunter to achieve fame tracking deer like this. His sons were all successful at it too. They wrote a couple of books to teach others how to do it. I see Joe even uses a scopeless Remington pump rifle the Benoit clan preferred for it's quick shooting ability. It's productive deer hunting if you learn the skills and are willing to put in the work, but you also have to be willing to cover a lot of land, even sleeping in the woods to keep going in the morning. I just never want to drag a deer as far as might be necessary when this hunting style is employed.

The point being missed here is the government wants to require NICS checks on all firearm transfers so it can deny as many of those transfers as possible. It is already trying to add all sorts of minor offenses to NICS as disqualifiers. Plus, the system won't work unless all firearms are registered. Registration leads to confiscation. Knowing that criminals are not getting their firearms from private sellers in the majority of their gun buys, knowing most of their guns are stolen or from straw buyers, knowing this harsh NICS dream will have no effect at all on criminals getting guns, knowing that this NICS dream turns your right to own a firearm into a government granted privilege, knowing that a "universal background check" law is prone to massive government abuse, knowing it will require registration of ALL firearms, making it easy to confiscate firearms declared banned for whatever reason, knowing all of that, do you still think we should trust the government not to abuse this system to take away people's guns at will? That is the point that matters. I support serious penalties for criminals that use a firearm to commit a serious crime. They should fear the penalty for such actions. Today, they don't fear the law at all. Yet responsible gun owners who get caught with a 30 round magazine in their car, that don't even have a firearm to put it into, can go to prison for 10 years. How is that even remotely referred to as "common sense"?

NY residents are already taxed to the point of breaking. The only solution is to cut spending. All of Cuomo's leftist progressive spending is completely unnecessary and must be scrapped. The state simply hasn't got the money for it. Time to drop down to essential spending only. Raising taxes on any NY residents will only cause more of them the leave the state, thereby exacerbating the tax revenue issue even further. That being said, Cuomo can be expected to do exactly the opposite, while continuing to blame his opposition, to the cheers of his clueless supporters.

I find this to be extremely perplexing. You mention "souls" and "hell", which indicates a belief in a God, yet seem to believe men should be able to play God and decide which human gets to live and which should die. How far do we take this God complex? Should we kill the elderly? The mortally ill? The paralyzed? The mentally retarded? Perhaps we should kill any human being that suffers in life? Abortion is merely a by product of a society the worships the orgasm and is willing to kill the consequence of the quest for an orgasm on demand. There once was a time when society understood the consequences of immorality and decadent values. Today, society feels it has found ways to "fix" those consequences with science and medical advancements. It's a convenience. A way to avoid the responsibility of one's actions. But at what cost? Devaluation of human life. Irresponsibility. Destruction of societal morals and values to the point where anything goes and nothing is wrong. Well if anything goes in a society, it won't be long before anything of value in that society, anything worthy of preserving, anything virtuous, righteous, morally correct, ethical, upright, upstanding, high-minded, right-minded, right-thinking, principled, exemplary, law-abiding, irreproachable, blameless, guiltless, unimpeachable, just, honest, honorable, unbribable, or incorruptible, is gone. We may have already passed to point of no return, especially if more than half the citizens in this land find it acceptable.

Perhaps you are not aware the law says you cannot sell a firearm to a convicted felon, and there are very few gang bangers that aren't already felons. So, if you sell to one and they commit a crime with it, and it can be traced to you, you are in deep sheet. BTW, if he's not a convicted felon, he could buy from any FFL because he will pass a NICS check.

Maybe they were referring to NY gun owners not joining the NRA and expecting the NRA to solve all of their problems.

Seems many NY gun owners are not aware the NRA works through it's affiliate the NYSRPA in NY and funds all of these court challenges.

These are calculated baby steps designed to soften resistance and garner public support for more. Eventually this is where it winds up.

He doesn't think smoking is good. He points out how it became socially acceptable to hate smokers. He doesn't say mass shootings never happened, he questions the media narrative presented about how and why they happened. It helps to understand how the masses can be manipulated to hate anything, while also being manipulated to love something that is vile and disgusting. It's about propaganda.

Good video that gives some insight into the way guns will be taken away.

Yes. As a free man with no desire to be a subject of a police state, I am perfectly capable of determining who is worthy of buying a firearm from me. The government should not be given the power to say I cannot sell a hunting rifle to a friend or relative, because it deems them to be unworthy, based on the government's desire to limit firearm ownership as much as possible, using various arbitrary barriers that it deems to be crucial to eliminating gun rights altogether.

A couple of good factual reads regarding the evils of "universal background checks". If you are a 2nd A supporter and think this should be supported, you need to look at the other side of the issue and realize you are buying their lies. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190201/congress-to-take-up-gun-control-next-week https://www.nraila.org/campaigns/2019/2019-universal-background-check-legislation/universal-background-checks/ Traps for Law-Abiding Gun Owners Both bills would make it a crime, subject to certain exceptions, to simply hand a firearm to another person. Any time gun owners carry out this simple act, they would potentially be exposing themselves to criminal penalties. While the bills do create some exceptions, they are overly complicated and create many traps for unwary gun owners. Accidental violations of these complicated provisions are not excused under the proposed legislation. In 2013, the Department of Justice’s National Institute of Justice researched so-called “universal” background checks and determined that they would be not be effective without further harsh firearms restrictions and efforts to combat straw purchasing. Criminals are not deterred by background checks. ATF has reported, “[t]he most frequent type of trafficking channel identified in ATF investigations is straw purchasing from federally licensed firearms dealers. Nearly 50 percent ... .” A Chicago-area inmate explained this reality to researchers from the University of Chicago in relation to Illinois’s stringent firearm licensing regime for a 2015 study, stating, “All they need is one person who got a gun card in the ‘hood’ and everybody got one.” A 2016 Department of Justice survey of “state and federal prisoners who had possessed a firearm during the offense for which they were serving” found that the most common source of prisoner firearms was “Off the street/underground market.” This was defined as “Illegal sources of firearms that include markets for stolen goods, middlemen for stolen goods, criminals or criminal enterprises, or individuals or groups involved in sales of illegal drugs.” Less than one percent had obtained their firearm from a gun show. H.R. 8 and S. 42 language states that participation by dealers in private party transfers would be voluntary. Because of the legal conflict and uncertainty, many dealers might refuse to run these checks. Those dealers that are willing, must agree to assume the risk and uncertainty and are likely to demand costly fees for the service. The language states that the dealer may charge a reasonable fee, but it does not cap or otherwise limit the dealer's discretion in this regard. Even transfers that do not result in a change of ownership would presumptively have to go through H.R. 8/S. 42 formalities. Thus, dealers would potentially have multiple records of the same firearm changing hands again-and-again, essentially creating a paper trail of everybody who handled the firearm. The record-keeping burdens on the dealer would be considerable, and the records generated could form the basis for a later registry not just of those who own firearms, but those who merely took possession of one, for any purpose or length of time. As an advisor to the Obama administration wrote, the effectiveness of a universal background regime "depends on … requiring gun registration…;" this bill weakens protections against using NICS checks to create a registry and sets the stage for future firearm registration requirements.

Laws should be directed at crime. Gun control laws are what's know as "preventative laws". Let me explain why those are bad. The government may not descend to the evil of preventive law. The government cannot treat men as guilty until they have proven themselves to be, for the moment, innocent. No law can require the individual to prove that he won't violate another's rights, in the absence of evidence that he is going to. But this is precisely what gun control laws do. Gun control laws use force against the individual in the absence of any specific evidence that he is about to commit a crime. They say to the rational, responsible gun owner: you may not have or carry a gun because others have used them irrationally or irresponsibly. Thus, preventive law sacrifices the rational and responsible to the irrational and irresponsible. This is unjust and intolerable. The government may coercively intervene only when there is an objective threat that someone is going to use force. Gun control laws are unconstitutional for this very reason.

Jonah Goldberg: "If you don't think late-term, post-viability abortions are morally troubling, you might want to ask yourself why we are only one of seven countries in the world that allow elective abortions after 20 weeks. It's unclear how many countries allow abortion at 40 weeks, mid-delivery, but it's possible that the U.S. and North Korea would be the only members of that club. ... In almost every other sphere of debate where progressives claim the moral high ground, they are categorical. 'If it saves just one life, it's worth it,' they say about gun control, health-care reform, police abuse, etc. Imagine if I were to argue that since lynchings are so rare, we don't really need strict laws against lynching. Infanticide, like racism, murder and rape, is a moral category. It's not less evil if it's rare. It is rare — thank God — because we've agreed to treat it as evil. ... In debates over the death penalty, there is one thing virtually everyone agrees upon: It's profoundly wrong to execute the innocent. Our criminal justice system is rightly crammed with all manner of checks to minimize the risk of a terrible mistake. Well, a viable baby is surely innocent, too. And yet, among abortion rights maximalists, it is considered the morally sophisticated position to remove as many checks as possible from preventing infanticide. If you think it's worth tolerating a certain number of baby killings to protect abortion rights, you should say so. But please don't pretend the moral ground you're standing on is very high."

I would expect to show my DL and have the info recorded. SS card would not be part of the transaction as it has no bearing on your identity outside of taxes and retirement. Like I said, if you sell a firearm privately, anywhere in the country, and you can't direct police to the buyer if need be, you are gonna be in trouble unless they can find the guy without your help. Many states issue people firearms ID cards that allow them to buy firearms. If they show that, they're golden, and none of their purchases ever need to be registered. Sounds to me like that's all we need. You get one after a complete background check and unless it's taken by a judge in a due process legal trail, you never need another NICS check for anything you want to buy. it works like a driver's license. Good anywhere and in any vehicle, but nothing needs to be registered. Anti-gun folks flat out reject the idea? Why? Because they want to know what you own!!!