Rattler

Why do you say there are no gun registrations in this country? There are plenty of them. The states have been requiring certain firearms be registered for some time. Look at your NY pistol permit. Private sellers who don't keep a record of who they sold a firearm to are foolish, because they are the ones who cops will come to if the gun is used in a crime but can't be connected to a shooter. Ballistics can prove a gun has been used to kill someone, even when a serial number has been defaced. Criminals don't want to buy a firearm with "a body on it" unless they have to. Very, very, very few legal gun buyers are selling to criminals, because they can get caught doing that and be prosecuted. Straw buying is also a felony. Criminals get their guns from thieves and felonious sellers on the black market. If you doubt it, look at FBI stats that prove it. Criminal demand for firearms is far too great for a few stupid legal gun buyers to supply.

Besides the fact they only concern themselves with violence that involved a firearm. They don't give two sheets about all of the other violence that is happening in society today, much of which involves a multitude of weaponry other than firearms. In some cases of violence, like attacks on conservatives, they even support it. So they cannot be considered against violence at all. They are only against 2nd Amendment rights.

Before the call for "Universal Background Checks", the amount of firearms bought from private sellers and used in crimes, was miniscule. That has always been one of the points used to counter the need for it. Most private sales were to family, friends, people referred by friends, or people that were able to provide proper ID and convince a seller they were a responsible gun owner. To this day, very few firearms used in crimes came from private sellers. Even private sellers keep records of who they sold a firearm to. Criminals want untraceable guns that cannot be connected to them in any way. They like defaced and stolen weapons. The biggest problem with the demand for "Universal Background Checks" is the FACT that it cannot work unless every single gun sold is subsequently REGISTERED! Do you want every single firearm you own registered? We can already see how registration TRULY leads to confiscation. That's the reason anti gun elected hacks want a "Universal Background Check" system installed. They never claim it will ever have any effect on the crime figures we see today, because they know criminals can always get a gun, and a huge black market will form, and no background check system will ever work when the criminals are not going to be using it.

There is no "gun show loophole". All sales of firearms are required to go through an FFL in NY these days. What you have described is not a "loophole", it's a felony. Same goes for you buying from someone in the parking lot without going through an FFL.

The vote is about what to eat, not which of the animals to eat. A wolf isn't going to eat another wolf. Neither is a lamb. Now if the voters were a wolf, lamb and sheepdog, the lamb wouldn't have to worry.

When pigs fly out of hell after it freezes over.

Which was a problem under the Obama era administration, where the law was used as a weapon against citizens. Any actual business, even car parts, selling firearms, cannot contest the "being in the business" part of the law, because they use business cash to buy and sell. But a hobbyist who is a private citizen can. Since the change under Trump, they have failed to make any legal case when challenged, that would define "frequent". Plus, as a non-elected regulatory agency, they have no legal authority to make any law defining it. Therefore they can only use intimidation as a weapon, and if they do so, they can be held liable for damages and legal fees when they are taken to court again and lose once again.

Back in the middle of the 20th century, the Democrat Party began to embrace an aggressively secular worldview that expunged the notion of Divine authority over humanity and replaced it with humanism. The fallout from this seismic political and ethical shift has resulted in the two distinct attributes seen in today's Democrat Party: First, an oversized, always-expanding view of the role and authority of government, and second, the devaluation of Liberty and individual rights. The great irony of secular humanism is that it results in the dehumanization of the individual. Nowhere is the flawed nature of the Democrats' secularist, dehumanizing ethic more exposed than in their recent legislative efforts to legalize abortion carte blanche.

That's not legally correct. Being in the "business" of buying and selling firearms does, but doing so as a hobby, with your own personal firearms collection, and using FFL's to do the transfers, is not something that requires an FFL.

That may be so, but it's only because people are not willing to fight for their rights. If the majority of people wanted slavery and the Governor gave it to them, wouldn't the courts step in? Why do we not demand the courts step in on 2nd A infringement? The time for a challenge is approaching because the SCOTUS will soon be pro 2nd A. If gun owners squander the opportunity to challenge each and every unlawful 2nd A infringement in the near future, we will have only ourselves to blame. Be advised, it will take monetary contributions to gun rights orgs to get it done. We will soon see if gun owners are will to pay to keep their rights, or lie down and be oppressed.

I was once purchasing a nice Bernadelli SXS from a gun shop that was closing, when the gunsmith there asked me if I liked SXS shotguns. I said I do very much so. He asked if I wanted to buy his 20 gauge Browning BSS. I said I would be happy to if it was in good shape. Asking how much he wanted for it, he said $1200. When he pulled it from it's case, it proved to be a Grade II BSS 20 gauge with silver receiver, engraving and AAA walnut. This was a gunsmith in his mid 60's mind you. I gave him the $1200 and took it home. He never fired it and neither did I. I had many expensive SXS shotguns then. Merkels, Ariettas, Ugartecheas, etc. Many were hand engraved and truly works of art. This Grade II BSS was mass produced and machine engraved, but of good quality and quite collectible. Less than two years after I bought it, I put in on gunbroker.com asking $2400. I figured if anyone would give me that much for it, they could have it, as it aroused no love in my heart. Long story short, a professor at Dartmouth bid $4200 and won the gun. The next highest bidder e-mailed me immediately after the auction to say he would buy it for $4200 if the winner backed out. Another time, a police officer friend was getting married and offered me a very good condition Winchester 1873 for $2500. I sold it 6 months later for $3800. The internet puts them in front of thousands more potential buyers who are willing to pay what they are really worth, as opposed to your local newspaper or Craigs List ad. Keep in mind, the local FFL is not going to give them what they are asking, even if it's a bargain price. I've stopped folks from selling to an FFL when I was in their shop and heard the low ball price they said they would pay for a fine gun. I discretely tell them to meet me outside or call me and I'll buy it from them. If you know your firearms, you will find valuable firearms offered for sale cheap without too much effort. Many people do NOT know what they are worth and will part with them for what they think is a good price. If you are known to be a buyer of fine firearms, people will come to you with their firearms and offer them to you first. If you think they are asking too much, you decline. If you think they are asking too little, you can pay more, but should always keep the value of your time in mind when doing so. It's all perfectly legal, but does require an FFL transfer now for every sale. That cost has to be calculated into the price you pay. Even considering that, it can be a very profitable hobby. I have found dealing with inexpensive firearms can bring an average 20% return, but that may only be $40. But 20% on a $5000 firearm will bring $1000 and not take any more of my time to sell, so that's what I'm interested in.

First of all we are not a democracy. We are a representative Republic. What's the difference? The majority is not allowed to infringe on the rights of the minority when all citizens are represented and their rights are protected. Cuomo is NOT doing his job. He swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and he is violating that oath by preventing responsible gun owners from freely exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. It's unconstitutional to allow the majority to force suppression of inalienable rights. If Cuomo was doing his job, he would be educating the masses in NY about that point.

20 years from now, even a Ruger American will be worth more than you paid for it. Maybe when you account for the devaluation of the dollar over 20 years it won't be worth as much, but considering the use you got out of it, it's still a better investment than a college education today. Besides, if things take a real dump in this world in the future, any rifle will be worth it's weight in gold. I once saw a bumper sticker that may be very prophetic. It said, "Ammo, the currency of the 21st century". Any firearm purchased at a fair price is never a bad purchase.

Anyone here have any understanding of the various revolutions that have happened around the world in recent history. Iraq, Iran, Cuba, Hungary, etc? These political coups began with a dirty civil war. Anyone know what that is? The elected enemies of the people, who try to oppress them into submission, start to get picked off by revolutionaries, who explain to the people why they are doing it and win the support of the people by doing it. Once they have won the people, there is no way the political traitors can win the revolution. If the American leftist oppressors don't start to throttle back their oppression soon, that is what they can expect. Think it could never happen? Don't bet on it. There are still plenty of free citizens in America who would rather die than live on their knees. All that being said, NY will not be where it starts, because NY citizens would rather live on their knees than be killed fighting for their freedom.

I look forward to being an outlaw when they do that. Never liked rules anyway.

It's not the first time leftists have talked about killing babies AFTER they're born.

This is how leftists install a police state. They sent far more men to this guy's house in the middle of the night, then they did to Benghazi in the middle of the day. Mueller is full of crap and all of his indictments are for process violations, not Russian collusion. He simply keeps asking Trump's people the same dumb questions constantly, until they give him a conflicting answer, then he indicts them for lying. Russians have done this for years. Now leftists do it. Who really seems to be colluding with Russians? AND DON'T FORGET HILLARY ACTUALLY DESTROYED EVIDENCE IN THE FORM OF 30,000 E-MAILS, WHILE ALSO DESTROYING PHONES WITH HAMMERS!!! WHY DON'T LEFTISTS WANT AN INVESTIGATION ABOUT ALL OF THAT!!!!

Wife? Too dangerous for me. Guns are much safer.

Actually, selling a firearm has not changed. You can still ship it yourself via UPS when you send it directly to an FFL. Private sales in NY must now go through an FFL, but the buyer should be paying that fee.

How much time? However much time it takes for the price of a new one to go up to the point a used one is a better buy at it's original price. Plus, when changes are made to the new ones that make a used one a preferred buy, the used one will be more sought after. There are many variables, but you will not find any firearm 20 or 30 years old in good shape, that won't sell for at least what it cost new.

Not true. A new gun will not be worth the new price after it's used, but over time it will be worth more than what it cost new. The price of new guns goes up fast, so the value of used guns goes up too. The collector items simply appreciate faster. ALL firearms go up in value over time if they are maintained in good condition and working order.

That's just for now. Soon this will be extended to a year, and eventually, whenever.

Nope, none whatsoever, zip, nada. It's called lack of due process and it is completely unconstitutional.

I've bought and sold so many firearms over the years, my log book is an inch thick. I buy them for use and collecting, but if they don't work for me in the use department, they may be sold. The collectibles are always for sale if somebody makes me an offer I can't refuse. I love having had the opportunity to become very familiar with lots of different firearms. Come to think of it, I feel the same about women, which is why I stay single.