WNYBuckHunter

While doing a small drive this afternoon, we found the remains of a nontypical we called sloppy joe. We aren’t sure how he died but it had to be soon after I had An encounter with him weeks ago. Too bad too, I’d have loved to put this guy on the ground.

They are Already legal for turkey and small game during bow season. Sorry but the logic just doesn’t add up. Probablys and opinions don’t add up to any type of proof. Just more sky is falling mentality.

So again, I ask Why would full inclusion increase poaching. If people are poaching, they don’t give a damn about the laws, so they would already be doing it. It’s not like you haven’t been able to buy them in NY before they were legal hunting implements, and they have been legal for a few years now. Do you have any proof of full inclusion in other states that already have done it seeing an increase in poaching?

What are you guys using for posted signs? Yesterday we found out that the deal for our house went through, which means our deal on our new house is done. We close in a couple weeks and the first thing I’m going to get done is to put new posted signs up. I want Some that I wont Have to replace every couple of years. Thinking of these ones https://www.seriouspropertymarkers.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=Mc-001

Why would crossbow inclusion cause more poaching to happen? the real reason is because in this state, hunting laws have to go through the legislature, you know, a bunch of politicians that don’t know anything about hunting. Makes no sense whatsoever.

Just heard the first 3 shots of the day. Wtf I cant See clearly 50 yards yet.

Just got to one of the ground blinds with my girlfriends daughter, Marlowe. She’s 7 and this is her first time hunting. Her dad never takes her so we decided it was time. She is excited and so am I. Hopefully we see something! Sure would like the big 9 to step out. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

I’ll be out probably from dark to dark. I have A pass to show up to dinner late.

I cant Choose multiple selections. I’ve seen them in almost all of those types of areas.

I dont think it was intended to start any fights. It doesn’t matter what the thread is actually about, as long as it includes crossbows, the anti crowd here starts throwing their I hate crossbows rhetoric out there and then it spirals into a rerun of the crossbow thread that came before it. brownclown was the one to fire the first shot in this one.

Just trying to head it off before it got legs my friend!

I wasnt able to find the numbers in the years before 2003, not that i looked too hard though lol. Time will tell if the number last year was just a spike or not. If it was, it seems that the numbers are still following a typical up and down trend. I wonder though, if the downward trend that was being seen just before full inclusion happend, was a result of their HR policy, and the numbers are rebounding from that. I did run across articles on 4 year olds killing deer lol. It is interesting to see the total number of licenses going down, but the large increase in Archery licenses.

Wow, thats the earliest Ive ever seen a buck shed its antlers.

Looks like Howard, NY

The DEC has already made it perfectly clear that they want full inclusion.

Im in! I want to use my Rage broadheads though!

So, I have to point out that the sky hasnt fallen in PA, and there has not been a huge increase in buck take. Lets take a look at the numbers... 2003 - 142,270 2004 - 124,410 2005 - 120,500 2006 - numbers not available 2007 - 109,200 2008 - 122,410 FULL INCLUSION OCCURS 2009 - 108,330 2010 - 122,930 2011 - 127,540 2012 - 133,860 2013 - 134,280 2014 - 119,260 2015 - 137,580 2016 - 149,460 So last year the buck harvest finally got back to where it was in 2003, 6 years before full inclusion happened. PA did a few other things in that time period as well, that affected buck take. ARs, etc. I can imagine there are guys down there that claim that the rise in buck take is solely due to crossbows, but if you look at what it was before full inclusion happened, youll see that was not the case.

Actually Eddie, I have to disagree with you on this. As I pointed out before, the anti crossbow crowd is always the side that fires the first shot. Always. Its going to stop. The crossbow section is not going the way of the political forum, regardless of who doesnt like crossbows.

Just like the political forum? I dont have an issue with some back and forth here and there sometimes, but its almost every single thread in the crossbow forum.

When you go online to report, it asks you.

I dont understand why the anti crossbow guys constantly stir things up in the crossbow forum. It doesnt seem to matter what the subject or discussion is, anything related to crossbows attracts the same basic bunch of anti guys, who post nothing but unprompted negative crap about how they hate crossbows. It ALWAYS comes from the anti guys first. Look at this thread, post #5 is where it began. Enough already. You guys that dont like crossbows, just dont comment on the threads, its really that easy. If you cant start controlling yourselves, then I will start dealing with the issue differently.

Blah blah blah. Why dont you answer the question I asked you? Could it be because you are talking out of both sides of your mouth? I mean, you were the one that said its pathetic for someone to worry about what other people are using, but then you say you care what other people are using. hmmmm

Exactly, so why do the anti-crossbow guys care?

fixed that for you

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