Northcountryman

Definitely alot of unknowns associated with this virus and the vaxx- no doubt.

Correct , and the nuts are shaped more like an eyeball as opposed to being round.

As does CNN and MSNBC lol

The fact that they spent every waking moment of Trumps presidency trying to discredit him , hanging on to the Russian collusion while concomitantly , refusing to cover anything pertaining. To Hunter Biden is a big clue that perhaps they’re a bit further left than they’re represented in the schematic - no disrespect intended .

I agree, so English is the smooth case, right?

I feel the same way about the left- for the most part. Can you tell me what you have liked coming from the right at some point?

No arguments here!

Paranoid? Dunno if id frame it that way- more like apprehensive about taking it now due to lack of comprehensive study into potential longterm side effects associated with its use. Are there any ? Perhaps not, but that remains to be seen!!

Huh! Ive never seen this- gonna look into it and get back to ya

I assume, from your statement, that you are not a FOX News guy lol. Do you watch CNN or MSNBC as an alternative? You do, of course realize they PROFOUNDLY distort the news to fit their liberal narrative, dont you? I agree that FOX does the same and to the right, but it astounds me when I hear those on the left make this assertion while believing theyre news channels -in contrast- are fair and unbiased ,and that through painstaking meticulous research reporting , SOMEHOW arrive at THE TRUTH which supports the Lefts narrative! Wow: if only we (conservatives) would wake up someday and realize the errors of our ways LOL.

CNN is way further left than where its placed in the schematic.

Yes, I see its down now. Why did they take it down , do you think?

So glad hes gone- I will give him credit for doing the right thing -this one time- by stepping aside.

As Ive said before, I could be persuaded to get it- just saw on FOX that 3 first responders died , all unvaxxed. I DO believe that with delta, you can still get -and transmit- COVID if vaxxed, but you also (likely) will not have as severe an outcome of the disease as those who are unvaxxed. For me, its been a cost-benefit analysis ever since I first got COVID myself back in Feb. After I fully recovered, I felt good and figured I was covered in terms of immunity- at least for awhile. Now, with the devpt of delta and the likelihood of other variants developing, that may not be the case. Im 53 right now, am very healthy , and have some immunity due to my previous bout w/ COVID- should I get the vax? Right not, my answer is no as I feel that I'm likely to fight off the virus if contracted again- is that a guarantee? Of course not; life is fraught with risks that are associated with countless choices we must make. This is but another example of that. On the other hand, If I were 75 and had more health issues, I would already be vaxxed; no question about it, as my chance of having a more severe outcome if contracting the virus would be much greater- far greater than it is currently- and would far outweigh any concerns I may have with long term side effects from getting the vaxx.

Nice job !!

I had a debate last night with a woman Who’s left leaning , Trump hater , etc. and also VERY much a pro Do what the government mandates vaxxer. She was respectful and polite for the most part , but there were times where I could detect her contempt and revulsion for “ people like me who haven’t been vaccinated yet”. Basically , her argument is that we ( the unvaxxed) are the ones fueling the current surge in hospitalizations and perpetuating the spread of the virus; further , she contends that the virus would fall flat in its face now if only the rest of us would go get it . She supports mandates to compel vaccination in all citizens and believes that if you don’t get vaxxed and get sick , then you shouldn’t get treated at a hospital because it’s punishing her and the “vaxxed” crowd because it increases their health care costs- I was absolutely mortified . I said to her “ well, if we take your logic one step further , then what about obese people ; should we not treat them if they suffer a heart attack because of their life choices ? Should we make them pay full price for their bp meds to force them to “ wake up” and stop impacting us economically? Some people are just SO EXTREME in their thinking - unreal .

This is interesting - where did you get this info ?

Steve , I may be persuaded that it is a moral obligation , but what worries me is the fact that it was rushed out so quickly , albeit out of necessity , of course . If there was solid proof that my not being vaccinated was a detriment to fellow citizens , I assure that I WOULD get the vaccine ASAP- but do you know that for a fact? I don’t think anyone does , that’s why I’m apprehensive .

Steve , I’m not sure what you’re point is here , though : are you saying that they felt they had a moral obligation to go fight WWII and that is analogous to how citizens today should feel about getting the vaccine ? Not saying it’s wrong btw , just want clarification . Thanks

Very cool , good burning

Really? Never saw them before !! Western NY?

I looked it up and I think it’s a yellow poplar .

I agree with everything you said except which side you’re directing it towards - rather than say “leftist liberals “ for the group you purport to the one that’s being castigated for a choice , I think you mean “ conservative” . See posts from Chef and Gobbler Chaser for reference - they are not touting the “ conservative point of view “ and are quite condescending , judgemental and demeaning . With all due respect , I believe you’re criticism is misdirected towards the wrong group my friend .

VH asked someone earlier in another thread if they might have any misgivings About not getting vaxxed if they knew they had infected others, suggesting that getting it results in lower transmissibility- this means you’re “safer “ to be around ( I guess).