Dave

Congrat's

Steve, totally agree. Whose agenda are they pushing if not the hunting associations and federations who have the ear of the DEC. I hunt in the catskills and my area has DMP only if you have a preference points so no DMP's this year. Plus the AR will totally wipe out any hunting in our area. I see this year the last year to shoot less than a 3pt on one side as a big problem. First these hunters who voulentary pass on these spikes will probable take them this year because they will have nothing to shoot next year. But the trophy hunters will be happy. What makes it even worse there isn't even any small game to hunt anymore.

they sent me a patch last year but I didn't receive the log this year.

Doc, some people who drink a lot are very touchy on this topic. I wonder why?

The anti's are just looking for things to complain about and drinking and hunting will be on the top of their list. If some one ever got hurt or shot, you know that will make the papers. I can see the headlines now. "Drunken hunter shoots self" or" Drunken hunter falls out of tree stand and dies" or Drunken hunter shoots someone else by accident. It could go on and on. Like don't drink and drive don't drink and hunt.

I Don't get to serious this early in the season. Usually in stand in the am for first 2-3 hrs the come back about 4:30

Guys what are the best scents to put out during the bow season?

4W Delaware County

We watch hunting shows, read books and magazines and participate on sites like this just to learn about deer. And yet know one has them figured out yet, some things work and others don't. And then there is the time when we do everything wrong and things work out to our advantage. That's why it's called hunting, nothing is guaranteed it is what it is and luck plays a big part , being in the right place at the right time. As far as the bucks go they do what they want, some are nocternal and we never see them but they are there you just have to put in the time and have patients.

Just a thought if it's legal why would it be unethical?

Not hijacking anything just answering a post. This started when someone mentioned mineral blocks to attract deer. Responses were it was illegal and could cause CWD. I posted CWD was found in deer farms where the deer were confined. Then I was quoted to be clueless, don't know where that came from. CWD did originate in deer farms where deer are confined to isolated areas not free ranging. Maybe the guy is a deer farmer. MY last word on this topic.

I guess you answered my clueless statement the CWD did come from confined deer in a deer farm. I didn't say how it got there ,it didn't matter I was talking where it came from and it was a deer farm. How do you introduce deer heads to deer. I am clueless on that one too.

There are 400 acres that border our club that is being logger this past 2 years. The logger even logged in the winter as long as he could get his equipment moving. When he started he said there were only a few deer in the area but as he cut the trees more and more deer showed up. They were eating the tops the tree buds all winter and I think this is why we have been seeing more deer in our area the past two years. So whether it's food plots or logging it attracts deer, oh yea I did see a few nice bucks on the trail camera. But not so much the last time I checked. That was about 3 weeks ago.

I think all you who think a food plot has something to do with the lack of bucks are probably right. About 20 years ago we had the same thing happen in our hunting area. We leased about 250 acres of land in Sullivan county not far from Rt 97. Well to make a long story short the owner of the land told us the deer were few far between. There was a farmer up the road about 2 miles from where we hunted that planted corn, about 60 acres that he never planted before and bingo that's where all the deer were bucks and does.So yes I believe that food plots probably have something to do with the lack of deer sightings.

Great job great when a plan comes together. How much did he weigh?

If I were the Boston manager, who is now the ex manager I would be pissed. The Yanks should have beaten the Rays, but they played around with the line up and pitchers. Just to see what the new guys had to offer. That cost the Red Sox a shot at a playoff game with the Rays. Yanks just layed down the last three games. May come back and bite them in the a--.

Just remember the CWD started in deer that were confined, not wild deer. So now we can't feed the deer. How about closing down those places confining deer, for what ever reason they have them to begin with.

What do you use to plant the corn? Do you use a mechanical device or plant my hand? Or some type of seeder.

Now that my sons are grown and working they have a different view of things. They love to be at the house upstate, they all work in the city and can't wait to get away to the cabin. It's quiet, beautiful and relaxing something they appreciate now. It's funny when your sons say Dad now I know why you appreciate nature so much. They love cutting and splitting fire wood, sitting around a camp fire and having a few beer with the old man. And they even hunt, life is good!!!!!

Growalot, what type of corn did you plant? When did you plant it? How did you prepare the soil before planting?

Good point

The guys in our hunting camp have a mix of ages, two just turned 70, two in the 60's, one guy in his 50's, and four guys in their 40's. But we have our children starting to hunt now, so we have a bunch of guys in their 20's . They are not as enthusiastic say the older hunters but they are getting there. They are the future of our camp. It's hard to get them to hunt when there is a football game on.

They are near Downsville, they have about 300 acres and are secluded nice camp.

Doc, I think you are right that is exactly what is happening. Many deer pictures and now not so much. Think I will move the camera to another location.

I have a bunch of family friends that have a club in 4O, near the water shed property. I think it's Murphy hill road, is that near you?