Registering for Confiscation

[Doc]

untill the patriots sabotage or take over the newer weaponry

Ha-ha .... Would anyone know which end of the system to sabotage, or even have a clue as to what to do with a captured one ..... lol. Yes, this stuff makes great fictional movies. Heck, all we need is a couple of Rambos to take on the government. Throw in Bruce Willis and Jean Claude and how could we lose ..... lol.

[verminater71]

Ha-ha .... Would anyone know which end of the system to sabotage, or even have a clue as to what to do with a captured one ..... lol. Yes, this stuff makes great fictional movies. Heck, all we need is a couple of Rambos to take on the government. Throw in Bruce Willis and Jean Claude and how could we lose ..... lol.

doc i usually agree with you, however you are dead wrong

spend a little time talking with an oathkeeper, you might have your eyes opened a little

[ants]

Ha-ha .... Would anyone know which end of the system to sabotage, or even have a clue as to what to do with a captured one ..... lol. Yes, this stuff makes great fictional movies. Heck, all we need is a couple of Rambos to take on the government. Throw in Bruce Willis and Jean Claude and how could we lose ..... lol.

Not too condescending ...Why don't you post one of your long winded term papers on this so all of us "Ramo" dopes understand..

[Felonious_Monk]

If the Iranians can bring down a classified stealth drone operated via encrypted control signals across redundant repeating networks, it can be done.

Do you not think any scientists, RF/Electrical engineers, engineering techs, or other people that understand how these systems function would be on your side?

[Doc]

Not too condescending ...Why don't you post one of your long winded term papers on this so all of us "Ramo" dopes understand..

Look, don't get mad at me for adding a little common sense into the conversation. If you and others choose to view yourselves as some kind of Rambo-types, don't let me interrupt your fantasies, but I will tell you that only a tiny number of people are savvy enough to operate most of the military weapons of the day. And I am honest enough to admit that if you walked me up to one of those drones, or the patriot missle system, I would definitely not be able to operate even if I had an operating manual in front of me. I can't picture too many of us that could jump in a tank and even get the thing to move. That's not condescending .... that's just plain old horse-sense.

[Doc]

If the Iranians can bring down a classified stealth drone operated via encrypted control signals across redundant repeating networks, it can be done.

Do you not think any scientists, RF/Electrical engineers, engineering techs, or other people that understand how these systems function would be on your side?

The Iranians have had decades to buy, steal, and be given assistance as an oil-rich predominately war-trained entity. If we ever found ourselves in a situation of sudden government oppression, we will find ourselves without the war-focused infrastructure that Iran has.

As far as our technically trained civilians, of course given enough time they could figure out these things by reverse engineering them. And then perhaps the opposition will allow enough time to train operators. And then maybe they would let you take the one unit that you captured on-site to a location where you could operate it for a minute or so before they blew the unit up along with any personel near it.

Another thing to keep in mind is that we are getting real big in the area of unmanned warfare. That is where the focus is today and will become the wave of the future. Think about that for a bit when you are talking about a civilian uprising.

Look, I can daydream right along with the best of you. But when the thinking gets out of the comic-book stage and enters a bit of reality, there is nothing wrong with understanding the realities of your situation. Less time fantasizing and more time thinking of real solutions is probably a lot more sensible. There may be preventative measures that we should be focusing on right now rather than trying to find comfort in fantasy. It is a lot of fun trying to write the next movie depicting how our fantasy war with the government will go. But we have real problems facing us that will need real solutions. coming up with these feel-good solutions is great for entertainment, but right now we should be focusing on political solutions to avoid the apocalyptic scenarios that we are entertaining ourselves with. I keep getting the feeling that there are way too many who are saying, "Look at us. We are invincible. Never mind all that political stuff, If anything ever happens, we'll just smear up our grease-paint, grab up our deer rifles and take care of it". I'm simply saying, don't get all caught up in that nonsense. There are some real political actions that are required, not this useless fantasizing.

[covert]

Doc while I agree absolutely that we need to fight the soft war now so we never have to fight the hard war, if it comes down to it there need to be Americans left who are willing and able to do whatever is in their power to preserve the idea of Liberty, even though it may be generations from now.

If God forbid, it someday comes to armed resistance no one should fool themselves. It will be hard, people will die, people will be ruined physically and financially and there is a very real chance that it will fail. Knowing all of that, everyone must look deep inside themselves and make their own personal decision whether it is worth it to them to risk everything on that one chance that it may succeed.

[sits in trees]

The only hope any people of a country have in a revolt against their own government is that the military will turn. The chance of that happening are about 50/50 looking at the more recent history of revolts against governments. The time it takes for the military to turn or not makes all the differance between success and failure. The toughness of the people is usually the deciding factor. We happen to be a well armed population, and the armed forces of the military would or could be facing opposition from many angles and groups/types of people.

Our military is made up of the very people they will be fighting and their toughness will come into play also. Yes our young men who are told they are the meanest toughest fighting machines on earth have been in many so called wars in the last couple of decades but the truth is none have been any more than a police action on people that were very much outgunned in weaponry and technology. I dont wanna take anything away from our brave young men and women in the military but the truth is the truth.

I think if it ever really comes down to us versus them our government/controllers/rich of this country might be surprised to find themselves in a position were they are left a steppin and a fetchin...

[Nomad]

Idk from what I've seen it sure does not take much to tie up multiple police depts. lets look at Webster, something I have personal knowledge of. One nut tied up wpd,ipd, nysp, mcso the boarder patrol,swat teams , armored vehicles, fd's from many towns, ambulances and helicopters. ONE nut.

Calf. One ex cop tied up half a state for days. The cops were so jumpy they shot up a truck with two ladies in it.

I ve been staged many times with rpd when they had a man with a gun in a house,the number of cops and swat tied up for hours is large, if they had 2 at once they 'd have to call in guys on OT lol.

[josephmrtn]

multiply that by the hundreds........