Request to be exempt from f.o.i.l with pistol permit is out what a joke

[noahmstone]

http://www.troopers.ny.gov/Firearms/Public_Records_Exemption/FOIL_Exemption_Form.pdf

Seriously you have to fit into certain circumstances in order to be exempt? what a joke. what about I don't think it is anyone's D@mn business as an option!!!!

[Ford]

They made it seem when they passed the law, that you could just opt out.

I would use number 2, explain it in number 5. I would think of something, and then lets see if they would deny it. Then, I would get a lawyer and cause some trouble.

[fasteddie]

What lame bureaucrat came up with that stupid form ?

[ants]

This is that new "OPT OUT" form??? What a joke.

[Doc]

Actually, I'm confused about the whole concept behind this "Opt-out" stuff. It seems to me that if they have decided that the information doesn't really have to be released to the public then why does witholding the info have to be done one person at a time. For crying out loud, just make the whole data base out of bounds for the F.O.I.L. stuff.

Now somebody has to be hired to manually input all these opt-outs into the data base. What a waste. Just exclude the whole database from F.O.I.L. activity.

[Lawdwaz]

Just check box 4

What's the big deal?

[Dinsdale]

Actually, I'm confused about the whole concept behind this "Opt-out" stuff. It seems to me that if they have decided that the information doesn't really have to be released to the public then why does witholding the info have to be done one person at a time. For crying out loud, just make the whole data base out of bounds for the F.O.I.L. stuff.

Now somebody has to be hired to manually input all these opt-outs into the data base. What a waste. Just exclude the whole database from F.O.I.L. activity.

I'd be guessing it has to do with the law that any permits or licensing has to be public knowledge in NY, and by making one type of permit off limits by the state it would be open to a court challenge. By allowing each individual a way to opt out, thats the backdoor way to keep it away from the lawyers (its an action of the permitee, not the granter of the permit; the state is just giving the mechanism to do so).

[Dinsdale]

Just check box 4

What's the big deal?

+1

Looks good to me.

[Doc]

I'd be guessing it has to do with the law that any permits or licensing has to be public knowledge in NY, and by making one type of permit off limits by the state it would be open to a court challenge. By allowing each individual a way to opt out, thats the backdoor way to keep it away from the lawyers (its an action of the permitee, not the granter of the permit; the state is just giving the mechanism to do so).

Maybe so. I sure am not any expert on the laws surrounding the F.O.I.L. stuff or any other kind of legal junk. It just seems a bit wacked-out to create all this extra paper-work. But I'll bet that isn't the first time that's been the case .... lol.

[fishuntrapper]

+2 for line 4. plus line five: "I have reason to belive that I may be setting myself up for unwarranted harassment as there are a lot of anti-gun and anti-hunters out there that exhibit irrational behavior from time to time. specific harrassing and terrorist acts (with dates, times, and persons involved) to serve as additional supportive information availible on request." REASON ENOUGH!!!

[fasteddie]

It would have been simpler if they removed the list and had the folks that wanted to , Opt In !!!

[josephmrtn]

HEY GREAT IDEA!!!!! lets propose to our dear cumoron that he should make a opt out form for these new "SAFE" act laws!!!!!!!!