More bad Public Relations

[mike rossi]

http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/96187.html

[WNYBuckHunter]

I saw this elsewhere. How is it bad for hunters? All it does is make these guys look like dopes that were illegally dumping.

[Doewhacker]

They are dopes for sure, they dumped them in an area known for illegal dumping. Couldn't they have brought them out to the woods to use for Coyote bait?

[Five Seasons]

I saw this elsewhere. How is it bad for hunters? All it does is make these guys look like dopes that were illegally dumping.

Agreed. Most intelligent people realize the acts of a few idiots do not reflect that of the masses. But of course the antis put it in their cap.

[Hardcore]

These people are not sportsmen, period. Too many these days are on the liberal wagon and stuff like this hurts sportsmen. After taking a deer especially a nice buck you want to show it off but there are more and more areas that people are offended and appalled.

I have for 10+ yrs take extra steps to make sure no one sees my harvest unless I want them to. It's a sad shame but the world we live in, back in the day the trunk would be open or tailgate down

for all to see. I even go as far as making sure I don't have blood leaking out the bed on the bumper etc.

I still want to show the deer off but only to those I hunt with or friends. One major factor that the anti 's & liberals don't seem to understand or grasp is that it is Sportsmen that are taking care of the environment. We are the reason that there are more opportunities and programs in place than ever before.

It is Sportsmen donations and dollars that reciprocally fund these programs and operate game departments, studies, surveys etc, all for the betterment of the resource via game and habitat management. The anti's money goes to shutting us down and losing opportunities and habitat . The presidents of these organizations probably suck up the bulk of their funds in salaries and events.

To see so called hunters disrespect the sport and the game really T's me off.

[Vince1]

i don't get why do this when it cant be to hard to dispose of them properly

[mike rossi]

Most people will connect this to hunting and hunters. And that is not entirely without merit. Many hunters discard carcasses in this manner. Many hunters litter in other ways, including the crap/toilet paper debate we had on here. Then as a group we turn around and complain about access to private land. Makes me laugh because some hunters complain, claim they are from the farm, the antis are city people who don't own property, etc... But no farmer or landowner wants carcasses dumped on their land unless it is their personal cattle boneyard... Introduce me to the farmer who wants carcasses dumped on their property - I thought the coyotes and crows were out of control and hunters were the (heroes) to the rescue of the people of NY? Dumping 200 carcasses doesn't draw coyotes and crows?

 

This had too many things with the word 'hunt' in it: game farm; game dinner; bowhunting organization.

 

These were grown men. Plus the fire men who transferred the birds are questionable. 200 left over birds for a game dinner? Do you know how much a game farm pheasant costs? It is required by law to have a receipt, when the birds are alive at least, possibly when they are dead too, but I am not sure. Many questions here.

 

It seems every time hunters congregate they get into trouble. The Holly squirrel competition and the Greene County Crow Down have generated national attention and TWO legislative bills in NY state. Those bills might not go anywhere - but not only did they achieve action in both houses, those bills have multiple cosponsors. Maybe you all are more successful than me, but I cant get 99% of the lawmakers to read an email I send them, yet the antis get quick and serious action. Another example of the same exact thing is the two mute swan bills filed when the DEC announced its management plan for comment...

 

 I admit the NYS Trappers convention in Frankfort has fur handing demos every year, and no complaints have been made about disposal or anything else (to my knowledge). There surely are other 'group activities' which do not ire the public majority. But often some of them do.

 

Another thing to look at is the age of the offenders - I believe they were in their mid - fifties and assumedly club officers. Perhaps they also served as hunter education instructors and/or ran youth outreach or their club does. Is this the blind leading the blind?  All they had to do was put the carcasses in a bag and put it in their (own) dumpster or garbage can or take it to the municipal dump - end of story.

 

Another thing: its one thing to breast a bird or two - but when you are talking 200 birds you are leaving A LOT of meat if you only breast the birds or take only the breast and legs. These are precisely the type of hunters that talk about all this experience they have and how they got the world by the tail but don't know squat.

 

I think right now - March 2014 we are experiencing a rash of bad public relations we have not seen for some time. As a result the anti-hunting movement is profiting and expanding. We have irked people with Onondaga lake - including the way the local news reported the situation; hunting contests; the federal sportsmen's heritage act; the Conservation Councils stance on Quiet Waters; Finch Land: and the reintroduction of Gray Wolves and other issues they support, oppose, or drive. Meanwhile most of us act like we are the majority and we hold the cards, well we don't.

 

 

Edited March 28, 2014 by mike rossi

[Four Season Whitetail's]

You better think again if you think this is not all against hunters. We had 4 different cases charged up here this year with deer throw on our road.       

Its 100% on all hunters. Not just the few fools!

 

The only one's that dont blame this on hunters are hunters themselves.

Edited March 28, 2014 by Four Season Whitetails

[dbHunterNY]

the club isn't that far from here.  I know some good people that are a part of that club.  You don't get all the details but I suppose they dumped them were they shouldn't have.  It's to the club is going to get a bad rep for it.  Next time I'm at my club i'll have to see if anyone knows about it down there.  I'm sure people are doing damage control.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

These were grown men.how much a game farm pheasant costs? It is required by law to have a receipt, when the birds are alive at least, possibly when they are dead too, but I am not sure. Many questions here.

 

I read it as farm raised game birds. Could have been quail from anything I read. 200 quail carcasses would about fill a couple 5 gallon pails. LOL  Not to make excuses. Also dead preserve birds do not require a receipt. The preserves I have used and done dog training at issued a metal tag that was only required to transport. I never really knew so I kept the tags in a bag in the freezer until they were consumed.