TheFieldArcher Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Who is going to hunt turkey with the crossbow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 has the DEC regulations been finalized making the crossbow legal the remainder of this license year? I don't think so.............probably won't be written into the reg.'s until the next licensing year, so probably nobody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFieldArcher Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) has the DEC regulations been finalized making the crossbow legal the remainder of this license year? I don't think so.............probably won't be written into the reg.'s until the next licensing year, so probably nobody. Thought it was now part of "bow"??? Edited April 12, 2014 by TheFieldArcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Thought it was now part of "bow"??? other than it being in the budget, I haven't seen it put in writing with final details , so I would think the current license year regulations are still in effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFieldArcher Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 other than it being in the budget, I haven't seen it put in writing with final details , so I would think the current license year regulations are still in effect. http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/22184-its-official/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI OUTDOORSMAN Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 its not official yet but when we can I will why not..pretty cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 it still needs to be fine tuned and written into the hunting regulations and ECL......my guess is not till 2014/2015 season, so maybe this fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFieldArcher Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) it still needs to be fine tuned and written into the hunting regulations and ECL......my guess is not till 2014/2015 season, so maybe this fall. I guess everyone interested has something to look forward to next turkey season... thought I would post a video showing how much fun crossbow hunting for turkeys is... Edited April 12, 2014 by TheFieldArcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Not legal yet as rules and regs not set... lbs pull, distance axle to axle,bolt length,act are still to be set. Will be by fall season. Hope to try it next spring. I have never been spotted drawing on a deer but have been by many turkeys.. I'm 1-15 against turkeys with bow.. hope that a crossbow makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 this site and our government and the lobbyist do a poor job sometimes with communication. While the budget gave the DEC the authority to do so, there is still nothing in the rule books. It is sill just as illegal to hunt with one as it was a few weeks ago. I actually would be surprised if they update it for turkey. My bet is the next reg book that comes out in the fall will have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow Addict Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I have attached some info from the DEC Understanding NY crossbow law_April 11, 2014.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I have attached some info from the DEC Understanding NY crossbow law_April 11, 2014.pdf Thanks. If I read that right they're not requiring bowhunter safety? Just general hunting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossyberg500 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Thanks. If I read that right they're not requiring bowhunter safety? Just general hunting? I would also like to know if you need a bowhunter course or just the regular course (witch i already have, don't think you can retake the course) but i don't know, so it may seem you might have to take the proper training course to hunt with a crossbow really hope it's included in the bow course because i can only imagine the cost of the training course. If you ask me if crossbow is seen as a gun and is included in the muzzelloader permit then in my opinion you shouldn't have to take a course or training to hunt with a crossbow, besides the hunters ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 this site and our government and the lobbyist do a poor job sometimes with communication. While the budget gave the DEC the authority to do so, there is still nothing in the rule books. It is sill just as illegal to hunt with one as it was a few weeks ago. I actually would be surprised if they update it for turkey. My bet is the next reg book that comes out in the fall will have it. Nobody has put out any misinformation on anything yet, at least that Ive seen. The fact is, crossbows are now a legal hunting implement in this state. Thats all so far, seasons and general regulations just havent been set yet. Its all been put out there pretty clearly, its just that some people dont understand the exact situation right now, for various reasons. How is that the fault of the state or this site? Hell, baiting is, and has been illegal in NY for quite some time, and some people do it anyway, some of those people dont know that its illegal to do any time of the year. Is it the state's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 If you do its fun to do from a blind. If you have never shot a Turk with an arrow you might be surprised to see where the kill/vitals are on a Turk. If you shoot for the chest they will take off never to be found. General rule of thumb for a quick kill on Turk standing broadside is aim strait up the drumstick and about 2 inchs below the top of the bird, yea it may sound weird but I have put arrows into numerous Turks to watch them run off never finding them or my expensive arrow. Turks don't leave blood trails and are tough birds with arrow pass thrus not always a guarantee. The idea is you want to put that broadhead thru the spine or as close to the spine as possible which helps severe the communication link from their little brains to their wings and disrupting their ability to fly off. The vitals as traditionally thought of by deer hunters being heart and lungs doesn't work for Turks, you put an arrow right thru the heart and lungs and the fowl will fly for a distance long enough for you never to find em. Hit em high watch em die, Hit em low watch em go..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Oh unlike using a crossbow for deer Turks really don't "Jump the String" so if your in a blind using say a shooting stick and a scoped crossbow and your a steady shot you do have an advantage over a vert bow hunter by making shots out to 40 yds or more if your really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) Nobody has put out any misinformation on anything yet, at least that Ive seen. The fact is, crossbows are now a legal hunting implement in this state. Thats all so far, seasons and general regulations just havent been set yet. Its all been put out there pretty clearly, its just that some people dont understand the exact situation right now, for various reasons. How is that the fault of the state or this site? Hell, baiting is, and has been illegal in NY for quite some time, and some people do it anyway, some of those people dont know that its illegal to do any time of the year. Is it the state's fault? It is a legal hunting implement and there is no season that allows it to be used? Still not even sure what level of training or education or licenses is needed to use one? I guess that's not confusing at all huh? I think I could deal with you if you stopped using the word FACT, in every sentence. If the bowhunter course isn't required, then the whole thing has really proven what a lot of use have thought all along. Edited April 16, 2014 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 It is a legal hunting implement and there is no season that allows it to be used? Still not even sure what level of training or education or licenses is needed to use one? I guess that's not confusing at all huh? I think I could deal with you if you stopped using the word FACT, in every sentence. If the bowhunter course isn't required, then the whole thing has really proven what a lot of use have thought all along. Its only confusing if you either cant read properly, or dont read all of the information in the releases. How is anything I said untrue? Crossbows are now legal hunting implememnts according to the state of NY. Thats a FACT. Dont like it? Too bad. Just because NY will most likely add the crossbow curriculum to the regular safety course, means nothing as far as what kind of a weapon it is. Keep on grasping at straws though. Your side lost. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) amazing how archery equipment doesn't require a bowhunter course though isn't it? Fill me in with some facts... Where and when can I hunt with my legal hunting implement the crossbow, today April 16th? And if our great conservation dept. does such a good job explaining it, why are members of the site asking all these questions? Have you sent your thank you note in yet? Edited April 16, 2014 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Maybe fall but not this spring regs. are not in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm not a big fan of shooting Turkey with any arrow regardless of it's shot from a compound, recurve or crossbow....in my opinion there's too much of a margin for error, and the one's I have seen killed with a bow pretty much destroyed a lot of the meat..........give me a shotgun every time when it comes to shooting a Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 and the one's I have seen killed with a bow pretty much destroyed a lot of the meat...... That has been my fear and what's kept me from trying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 If you are destroying meat its usually only going to be for the yotes that find your bird. The meat on a wild Turk is the breast and if your arrow goes thru the breast your not killing or finding the bird. Once you learn the kill zone on a Wild Turkey you will drop them every time with an arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 If you are destroying meat its usually only going to be for the yotes that find your bird. The meat on a wild Turk is the breast and if your arrow goes thru the breast your not killing or finding the bird. Once you learn the kill zone on a Wild Turkey you will drop them every time with an arrow. still a tiny kill area....I'll pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Shoot right along that red line and you have a dead bird. The yellow circle is the meat, shoot there and you have no bird. As far as shooting Turkeys with a shotgun and not destroying meat is questionable because in my experience stray pellets have a way of ending up in the breast and even one or 2 number 6 pellets in the breast meat are nasty because first off its lead and they pull feathers right into the meat. Don't hesitate to hunt Turks with a bow or xbow its tons of fun, very quiet(doesn't disrupt the flock and if you hit where I said you will nail em every time especially with the accuracy an xbow provides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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