thphm Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Love my stiff coated rods only use the snakes on my Ruger ranch .03 and 22Mag. semi auto's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted January 25, 2015 Author Share Posted January 25, 2015 OK, went to my local gun shop today. I've known and done business with him for over 35 years, and he is a stand up no b.s. kinda guy. Told me that he has heard of the bore snake getting stuck but he has never actually seen it happen himself. Also he thinks the ones getting stuck may have been to big or wrong size for the bore being used. Anyway, he had one there that fit my 7mm-08. It also fits 270, 7mm, 284, and 280 caliber. He also showed me how to use it in my gun. So I bought it for $14.95. I'm very happy with the job it did on my gun! Quick, easy and very clean afterwards. I'll still use my coated rod when I have time and want to baby and thoroughly clean the gun. But for a quick clean up after shooting before it goes back in the case you can't beat the bore snake. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 I don't know what sizes they come in but if they are made caliber specific then a .277 is going to be smaller than a .284 and not as tight, obviously. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the store owner or his peeps will have glowing reviews for something they sell. Good luck! Why are you so against them? You clearly stated your opinion but keep going and I'm not sure why. Plenty members here have had great results. Google any product and you're going to find some negative reviews. Doesn't mean it's bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Why are you so against them? You clearly stated your opinion but keep going and I'm not sure why. Plenty members here have had great results. Google any product and you're going to find some negative reviews. Doesn't mean it's bad. I don't care if everybody in Mississippi gets them free with a GD Happy Meal. I don't think too much of them and didn't want the OP to think they would replace a rigid cleaning rod. If you and all your friend want to use them, have at it. I'm not going to drag the same old crud down the bore of my guns over and over. Yea.....hand washing it or running through your dishwasher is going to be fine..........maybe for your guns but not mine. There is no reason to clean your CF rifle bore in the field or at camp unless you didn't spend the $1.95 on a roll of electrical tape and use it. Cleaning a CF rifle properly with a rigid rod is not that much work, you might even be able to find a Youtube video on it, maybe. It sounds like you have invested heavily in them and don't want to hear any bad words on them?? You want to use them, fine. I'm sure they'll work great for you and everyone else. I pointed out a few facts and barely an opinion until now. Oh yea......don't have to clean your guns as soon as you get home from shooting? Well eat your Happy Meal then take a nap, maybe even wait a month to clean them, it won't make a lick of difference. Clean them when you've found time....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sorry to hear you're having a bad morning. I wouldn't call $45 a heavy investment. I too believe there are pros and cons. I usually just use them after a short session or hunting. Not for long range sessions. Everyone has a right to opinion, you just seem to hold some higher than normal animosity, and I was curious to why. Btw, I enjoy any gun and amount of ammo and mag capacity with my GD happy meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) i rinse it in hot water after and let it dry before putting it away. I don't think they have the caliber/bore stamped on them so save the package and store them in there. they're color coded but you'll find the caliber on the brass end cap to the string. Edited January 26, 2015 by dbHunterNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have a few; 12 & 20ga and .17 caliber. I dont think they would be any good for a centerfire that gets much shooting and gets a copper fouling build up. I'll stick with my Dewey rods and bore guides for them. The easiets/best way to remove copper is W/Wipe-Out. No scrubbing. Just run a dry patch through the bore to remove excess powder residue, then plug the chamber W/a loose fitting patch & inject the expanding from into the muzzle. Let it soak for 20 minutes or so & wipe the bore. Repeat until there is no longer any blue (copper) on the patches. Reduces wear & tear from running a ramrod back & forth scrubbing W/a brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Once I do my zero check before season, I do not touch a cleaning rod unless I get caught in signifiacant rain. Even then, I just run a dry patch through the bore to remove any moisture. A perfectly clean and/or oily bore can & usually does shoot to a different POI than a fouled bore. Since I routinely make shots between 200 & 250 yds, this can change POI several inches @ those ranges. After the season, I thoroughly clean the bore as described in the post above & run an oily patch through before storage.. While a "bore snake" can adequately clean a smooth bore shotgun barrel, it is woefully inadequate for a rifle except for a quick wipe. It needs to be followed up by @ least an oily patch. Eventually, copper will build up & need to be removed to keep pin point accuracy. Edited January 27, 2015 by wildcat junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Anyway, he had one there that fit my 7mm-08. It also fits 270, 7mm, 284, and 280 caliber. .270 is .269" bore, .277" in the grooves/bullet diameter. All of the other cartridges listed are 7mm bore, (.276") 7.2mm (.284) in the grooves/bullet dimeter. 7mm, 284 & .280 all use the same bullet diameter, .284" or 7.2mm. We are only talking about a .2mm (.004") extreme difference here. Actually, the .270 uses the bullet closest to 7mm diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmig2 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I have a bore snake for every caliber except a Ruger 44 mag. carbine. I love these things. I use a regular old school wire brush head on a rod first to free up copper. I put some cleaning solution on the bore snake behind the wire brush head on the bore snake. I clean the bore snake with soap and water and ring it out good and let it dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The easiets/best way to remove copper is W/Wipe-Out. No scrubbing. Just run a dry patch through the bore to remove excess powder residue, then plug the chamber W/a loose fitting patch & inject the expanding from into the muzzle. Let it soak for 20 minutes or so & wipe the bore. Repeat until there is no longer any blue (copper) on the patches. Reduces wear & tear from running a ramrod back & forth scrubbing W/a brush. Never used Wipe Out but have used an early version of a foaming bore cleaner from Outers, IIRC It didn't work so good. My bench area has Hoppe's, Kroil, Iosso, Montana Extreme Copper Killer and Sweet's 7.62. I think I'm out of Butch's Bore Shine right now. For some reason my 7-08 NULA seems to clean up the best with the Sweet's but the Montana Extreme is pretty darn good too. Nylon brushes of course with those two products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat junkie Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Never used Wipe Out but have used an early version of a foaming bore cleaner from Outers, IIRC It didn't work so good. My bench area has Hoppe's, Kroil, Iosso, Montana Extreme Copper Killer and Sweet's 7.62. I think I'm out of Butch's Bore Shine right now. For some reason my 7-08 NULA seems to clean up the best with the Sweet's but the Montana Extreme is pretty darn good too. Nylon brushes of course with those two products. I clamp the barrel in a wood jaw vice W/the muzzle pointing down slightly. I hang an empty milk jug over the muzzle. The foam will turn blue & eventually turn to a semi-thick liquid & run from the muzzle. The patches will come out blue if there is a lot of copper. Slight copper fouling will intially come out gray, then turn pale blue. My Dad's 1898 Springfield 30/40 Krag took several applications. I doubt that it had ever had a thorough copper removal performed on it in its 115 year history. Wipe-Out beats anything on the market. I found out about it on the Accurate Reloading forums several years ago. Edited January 27, 2015 by wildcat junkie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wipeout is what I'm going to buy when I run out of Sweet's as my bottle is almost empty, also use Butch's Bore Shine. Have a couple of Bore Snake's, never used them. Used to take them as field kit when traveling for emergency clean out, but have moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolp71 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yup, been using wipeout for years. I switched last year to patchout(less messy)and also the accelerator for when I need to clean quicker. Great stuff. As far as the bore snakes go, I have a bunch of those too. They have their place. Mostly for various shotgun gauges and some handgun. They would never see the inside of any of my serious rifle barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.