Meat First Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 http://nypost.com/2015/03/19/deer-hunter-with-bow-and-arrow-arrested-in-buck-beheading/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 We need to differentiate between a poacher and a hunter. The man probably didn't even have a hunting license. We should not allow him to cast a shadow on the image of lawful hunters. It's funny how certain things are OK to generalize in society, when it suits the agenda of those who wish to oppress. As an aside, it's about time to allow deer hunting, at least with a bow, on Staten Island. The deer population is growing quickly and without hunting will soon become a big problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Come on! he gives nut jobs in general a bad name...he followed delivery trucks and stole Christmas gifts!.... The best you can say about this nut case is he proved that deer could be taken in an urban setting without any injuries to humans and undetected..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopaxmatt Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Come on! he gives nut jobs in general a bad name...he followed delivery trucks and stole Christmas gifts!.... The best you can say about this nut case is he proved that deer could be taken in an urban setting without any injuries to humans and undetected..... Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI OUTDOORSMAN Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Well said. 2ND THAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Track Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Are we sure its not some new trend for the mob. Are they using deer heads instead of horse heads these days, and he was their source? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat First Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 We need to differentiate between a poacher and a hunter. The man probably didn't even have a hunting license. We should not allow him to cast a shadow on the image of lawful hunters. It's funny how certain things are OK to generalize in society, when it suits the agenda of those who wish to oppress. As an aside, it's about time to allow deer hunting, at least with a bow, on Staten Island. The deer population is growing quickly and without hunting will soon become a big problem. Agreed but the crazies would be all over you.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 And we have an abundance of them down here! Agreed but the crazies would be all over you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 There are some nice deer out there,i have seen pictures....They never said what this guy was doing with the antlers.I was told by people that live on the island that he has been killing deer for years....not sure how they knew.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Disclaimer...NOT ASIAN BASHING...JUST A FACT...if he did this while they were still in Velvet there is a huge blk market for antler velvet..aphrodisiac they say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Not aphrodisiac. In Chinese medicine it is believed to help improve kidney and circulatory problems. The real spike is athletes use it as a steroid alternative. Especially when they over turned the ban since it only contains small traces of growth hormone. Professional athletes has been snatching them up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Thanks for clarifying that ...I was scanning a bunch of stuff to find the market and confused that with...huh.... not sure what, but some animal part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Come on! he gives nut jobs in general a bad name... I didn't realize any nut jobs had a good name to worry about having tarnished. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Agreed but the crazies would be all over you.... They're already all over us hunters, so it doesn't really matter. Besides when their BMW's and Mercedes Benz's keep hitting deer, they will scream for someone to do something. That's just what happened in Princeton, NJ a few decades ago when they thought they were smart an outlawed hunting there. Now they have to pay sharpshooters $1000 per deer to kill them at night (not legal during hunting in NJ) over bait with rifles (not legal for hunting in NJ) that are so called assault weapons (not legal at all in NJ) using silencers (need I say more?). Just who are the crazies helping? Edited June 11, 2015 by Mr VJP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince1 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 2ND THAT! is it sad that that was my takeaway as well? I mean yeah he was a nutjob but all I keep thinking is they will pull a ovary snatch on all the does out there and then the buck population will explode. I mean he was running his own successful population control program and it seems like his neighbors new about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thanks for clarifying that ...I was scanning a bunch of stuff to find the market and confused that with...huh.... not sure what, but some animal part... Only reason I remember is because i'm a big sports fan and a famous football player (Ray Lewis) was caught with it a couple of years ago and that's when the whole legality of it came into question. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think he was using something called antler spray.I did not know it was made from the velvet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I wonder how many non-hunters really don't distinguish between poachers and legal hunters when they read these stories. I can imagine the comments as people read that story. Do non-hunters even know what is legal hunting and what is not? Do they start assuming that most hunters just cut the heads off and leave the rest? Do they assume that bait is a normal hunting act in NYS? I really cringe everytime I hear those kinds of stories. I'm not sure how much of that crap is rubbing off on me strictly by erroneous association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr VJP Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Doc, I believe most non-hunters think a poacher is just a hunter who didn't follow the rules. I also believe they think most hunters do not follow the rules some of the time. So, in their minds, all poachers are hunters and most hunters poach sometimes. I see little hope of getting the Main Stream Media involved in correcting that erroneous perception. I see the MSM being the cause of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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