New Electric Deer Hoist

[Five Seasons]

Moved into a new home last year. The garage ceiling is 8' and drywalled. The previous dingbat didn't install so much as a hatch to get into the attic so that's step 1. No need for a access ladder or anything but I'll need to do a hatch at least.

Anyhow, I had a similar situation in my last house but I did have access to a the attic above the garage. What I did was brace a 2x6 with the 2" laying over the span of 3 ceiling joists and the 6" screwed into 2 or 3 vertical trusses (I believe that's the correct terminology. Wish I had a picture joists on the floor. truss connecting joist to the roof haha). Anyhow from there i cut a small hole in the ceiling and threaded a heavy duty eyebolt into the 2" side of the 2x6. I had no concerns about the setup as it was just for deer and used a manual rope pulley and gambrle system.

I would like to do something similar at my new house but want to install an electric hoist. 25% off coupon at harbor freight right now. I have the power nearby at the garage door opener but All of these electric hoists are designed to be mounted to a metal trolley/beam/pipe setup. Could I do something similar to my last setup but by some pipe or beam instead of a 2x6? I've seen some stuff on the web where people have still mounted these hoists to a horizontally mounted 2x6 but I dont think i have the clearance for that.I'd need the hoist to be above the drywall at a minimum. 

thoughts?

https://www.harborfreight.com/440-lb-electric-hoist-with-remote-control-62767.html

 

[Five Seasons]

Has anyone done this kind of setup?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

we use a cheap 2500# ATV winch. I think it was $80 at harbor freight. It runs on 12 volt so we tossed an old car battery on a shelf next to it and put a trickle charger on it to keep it up during the season. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/2500-lb-atvutility-electric-winch-with-wireless-remote-control-61297.html

 

ours has a wired remote. This one is wireless. also pick up the mounting plate for $5 to make mounting it easier

 

should have mentioned the winch is wall mounted and the cable through a simple pulley at the ceiling. 

 

and about the Garage ceiling. Depending on the configuration and how the fire barriers ar it may be "out of code" to have a hatch in the ceiling. That said. I would add one too. just be careful adding weight to trusses by storing a lot of crap up there. 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Culvercreek hunt club

[moog5050]

23 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

we use a cheap 2500# ATV winch. I think it was $80 at harbor freight. It runs on 12 volt so we tossed an old car battery on a shelf next to it and put a trickle charger on it to keep it up during the season. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/2500-lb-atvutility-electric-winch-with-wireless-remote-control-61297.html

 

ours has a wired remote. This one is wireless. also pick up the mounting plate for $5 to make mounting it easier

 

should have mentioned the winch is wall mounted and the cable through a simple pulley at the ceiling. 

 

and about the Garage ceiling. Depending on the configuration and how the fire barriers ar it may be "out of code" to have a hatch in the ceiling. That said. I would add one too. just be careful adding weight to trusses by storing a lot of crap up there. 

 Not to hijack, but I just hoist my deer up with a hand winch over a single truss beam.   I don't have a hatch either in the garage, but do have one in the house.  Is that a bad idea?  Too much weight for a single truss beam?

[dbHunterNY]

8' isn't much when you start adding up heights of things, especially when using a big game scale to weigh deer.  unless there's living space above the garage i don't know as if the ceiling system needs to be maintained as a fire rated assembly.  if attached i'd think your rating would be at the wall adjacent to your living space.  i'm kind of rusty on residential construction.  definitely be reserved using up there as storage though.  hard to tell what you can and can't do without looking at the hoist in person.  probably could just run an upright 2x6 stringer from truss and then you could probably just run equal length cables through those mounting brackets.  if running a pipe you could just use conduit hanging hardware and threaded rod down to those mounting brackets.  from the picture it looks like the housing might come off to let you to lag that into something too.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

11 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

 Not to hijack, but I just hoist my deer up with a hand winch over a single truss beam.   I don't have a hatch either in the garage, but do have one in the house.  Is that a bad idea?  Too much weight for a single truss beam?

if that bottom cord of a truss is spliced I don't like bottom loading them. I have done it, but try to stay as close the the wall that the truss rests on as possible, staying away from the middle. a Truss ins't designed to be loaded from the bottom, but we cross 5 trusses with a 2x12 laying down and our eyebolts drop down through that. We hang up to 3 deer off them at a time. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

5 minutes ago, dbHunterNY said:

8' isn't much when you start adding up heights of things, especially when using a big game scale to weigh deer.  unless there's living space above the garage i don't know as if the ceiling system needs to be maintained as a fire rated assembly.  if attached i'd think your rating would be at the wall adjacent to your living space.  i'm kind of rusty on residential construction.  definitely be reserved using up there as storage though.  hard to tell what you can and can't do without looking at the hoist in person.  probably could just run an upright 2x6 stringer from truss and then you could probably just run equal length cables through those mounting brackets.  if running a pipe you could just use conduit hanging hardware and threaded rod down to those mounting brackets.  from the picture it looks like the housing might come off to let you to lag that into something too.

that bold is correct IF the wall is. I have seen many garages that rely on the ceiling as the barrier. 

[Jeremy K]

Don't we have a resident building inspector that frequents the site ? I could have sworn there was one.

[moog5050]

22 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

if that bottom cord of a truss is spliced I don't like bottom loading them. I have done it, but try to stay as close the the wall that the truss rests on as possible, staying away from the middle. a Truss ins't designed to be loaded from the bottom, but we cross 5 trusses with a 2x12 laying down and our eyebolts drop down through that. We hang up to 3 deer off them at a time. 

I guess it's time to cut a hole in the garage ceiling.   I have no idea if the truss is spliced but I would guess so.  It runs across the garage well over 20'.  So could I use an eye bolt on a board over several trusses and mount the winch on a board across several wall studs.  Or is it better to have the winch directly overhead.  Pretty much what I do now with winch mounted to wall but cable runs over chain loop (which hangs from a single truss).  

[Culvercreek hunt club]

3 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

I guess it's time to cut a hole in the garage ceiling.   I have no idea if the truss is spliced but I would guess so.  It runs across the garage well over 20'.  So could I use an eye bolt on a board over several trusses and mount the winch on a board across several wall studs.  Or is it better to have the winch directly overhead.  Pretty much what I do now with winch mounted to wall but cable runs over chain loop (which hangs from a single truss).  

honestly if you are hanging one deer at a time i would span 3 of them and leave the winch mounted to the wall. maybe across two studs in the wall. 

[moog5050]

See what you started Belo.  I am only down the road.  Come fix mine up.  Lol

[Culvercreek hunt club]

9 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

See what you started Belo.  I am only down the road.  Come fix mine up.  Lol

this isn't a great pic. mainly becasue of some of the outlaws in it. you can see at the top how we put I bolts through.. the winch is off screen on the left. I use ropes with eyes so I can hang 3 by using the winch and the winch is put on the one being trimmed so you don't have to bend much. you can see the battery we hook into. 

Edited July 20, 2017 by Culvercreek hunt club

[Culvercreek hunt club]

7 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

See what you started Belo.  I am only down the road.  Come fix mine up.  Lol

you buy the beer and I'll come help. 

[moog5050]

4 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

you buy the beer and I'll come help. 

Deal.  Need to get me an electric winch.  Takes 3 days to crank em up by hand.  

[Culvercreek hunt club]

6 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

Deal.  Need to get me an electric winch.  Takes 3 days to crank em up by hand.  

I know you only shoot the monster bucks so you may want to add a few dollars and get the one that has load braking. The deer won't drift down on you then. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-lb-atvutility-electric-winch-with-automatic-load-holding-brake-61257.html

[moog5050]

4 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

I know you only shoot the monster bucks so you may want to add a few dollars and get the one that has load braking. The deer won't drift down on you then. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/3500-lb-atvutility-electric-winch-with-automatic-load-holding-brake-61257.html

Then I have no excuse to shoot the little guys.  Lol

[WNYBuckHunter]

44 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

this sin't a great pic. mainly becasue of some of the outlaws in it. you can see at the top how we put I bolts through.. the winch is off screen on the left. I use ropes with eyes so I can hang 3 by using the winch and the winch is put on the one being trimmed so you don't have to bend much. 

LMAO where did that pic come from? Outlaws is right! Bunch of holligans in the building that night!

[WNYBuckHunter]

37 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

Deal.  Need to get me an electric winch.  Takes 3 days to crank em up by hand.  

A guy your size ought to be holding the deer up over your head by its back legs in one hand and inserting the gambrel with the other

[Culvercreek hunt club]

LMAO where did that pic come from? Outlaws is right! Bunch of holligans in the building that night!

I took that pic before we brought your buck in and hung it up

[moog5050]

7 minutes ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

A guy your size ought to be holding the deer up over your head by its back legs in one hand and inserting the gambrel with the other

Funny how I lift weights to get stronger and then think of every way possible to avoid lifting heavy things for something practical.  

[Culvercreek hunt club]

36 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

Funny how I lift weights to get stronger and then think of every way possible to avoid lifting heavy things for something practical.  

Everything we have done in our cutting area had one factor in mind. Avoiding any bending. counters and cutting tables set to the right height, winch to adjust he deer to standing while  skinning and deboning.  Nothing make you dread cutting up deer like knowing your back is going to bother you afterwards. 

[moog5050]

21 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Everything we have done in our cutting area had one factor in mind. Avoiding any bending. counters and cutting tables set to the right height, winch to adjust he deer to standing while  skinning and deboning.  Nothing make you dread cutting up deer like knowing your back is going to bother you afterwards. 

Good plan!

[dbHunterNY]

1 hour ago, WNYBuckHunter said:

LMAO where did that pic come from? Outlaws is right! Bunch of holligans in the building that night!

what's going on to the right?  looks like someone's reaching up the deer's skirt. lol

[WNYBuckHunter]

10 minutes ago, dbHunterNY said:

what's going on to the right?  looks like someone's reaching up the deer's skirt. lol

LOL, I think I was pulling down on the hide. The guy on the left of the deer looks like hes about to shank it.

[dbHunterNY]

22 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Everything we have done in our cutting area had one factor in mind. Avoiding any bending. counters and cutting tables set to the right height, winch to adjust he deer to standing while  skinning and deboning.  Nothing make you dread cutting up deer like knowing your back is going to bother you afterwards. 

i'm only 34 and can appreciate that planning.  i'm in fairly decent shape too.  i could only imagine it's a lot worse when you're older. 

 

2 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

that bold is correct IF the wall is. I have seen many garages that rely on the ceiling as the barrier. 

seems like a terrible idea but wouldn't doubt it.  local building inspector could check it out.  just because someone makes a determination doesn't mean he wouldn't necessarily say something different.  at least Belo would know then.  in all honesty sending metal fasteners up through it might not fly either if you get too particular.  depends on what's done.  you brought up a valid point with the fire rating though.  little ashamed i didn't think of it.  houses can be quite a bit different than commercial though.