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[Doc]

So I don't know whether that loud-mouthed abrasive personality is real of just some faked, made up TV persona and frankly I don't really care. I can only go by the public picture that he has so carefully cultivated for us. And so, I still say that that kind of personality is not something that I want to be associated with. And I feel no particular need to be buddys with or represented by such a person just because he happens to hunt. Believe it or not, there are a lot of jerks that many of us wouldn't want to associate with that hunt/fish/trap. Also, there are a lot of them that I don't want being any kind of spokesman for the sport either.

[bubba]

We should also remember he is an entertainer, this is how he makes his living and draws an audience. When Ted hunts alone in the woods does he make a noise?

Burt,

If I read this correctly, it sounds like we pretty much agree.  Like I said, the more we talk about this even negatively, it keeps his name circulating.  Doc, I totally agree. I am in no way endorsing him for anything. I do llike some of his music, but really am impressed with is guitar playing.  Is he in any way some representative for me?  UMMM NO

[sits in trees]

lets see several children out of wedlock, draftdodger umongst other things. talks about how he would defend America to the death and totes around military styled rifles and hid like a rabbit while other young men were dying in Vietnam????read the following little story about "our Hero".... yer past is something you just can't shake loose with alittle B.S.

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July 3, 2007, - 1:25 pm

The Hypocritical Summer of Ted Nugent    By Debbie Schlussel

Am I the only one who’s sick and tired of the hypocritical ventings and lecturings of Ted Nugent? Am I the only one who sees through this rocker-with-no-clothing? Are conservatives so desperate for a D-list celebrity that they will overlook all to embrace Ted Nugent? Apparently so.

Today’s Wall Street Journal features an op-ed piece by Nugent, who likes to refer to himself as “Uncle Ted.” The piece, “The Summer of Drugs,” is three columns of Nugent bloviation and braggadocio about how he never did drugs on the rock scene in the ’60s and ’70s (a point a lot of bigger name rockers who toured with him dispute) and what a great moral guy he is because he was not like the rest of the ’60s generation.

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Ted Nugent: Portrait of a Hypocrite

All fiction, since Nugent–a Draft Dodger–divorced his wife, used his rock star money to gain sole custody of the kids, lived with a teen groupie who raised the kids (he was too busy touring), cheated on his second wife, Shemane, and had a kid outside of wedlock with Karen Gutowski of New Hampshire, with whom he fought against paying child support for years.

**** UPDATE, 02/17/09: That’s in addition to the two other kids Ted Nugent had out of wedlock with two other different women by the time he turned 21. That’s right. Ted Nugent fathered SEVEN kids with FIVE different women, to which only two of whom he was married. ****

It’s hilarious to read “Uncle Ted” Nugent moralizing to us in the Journal, including these passages, since he’s not exactly the ideal utterer of them:

<blockquote>  Turned off by the work ethic and productive American Dream values of their parents, hippies instead opted for a cowardly, irresponsible lifestyle of random sex, life-destroying drugs and mostly soulless rock music that flourished in San Francisco. . . .

A quick study of social statistics before and after the 1960s is quite telling. The rising rates of divorce, high school drop outs, drug use, abortion, sexual diseases and crime, not to mention the exponential expansion of government and taxes, is dramatic. The “if it feels good, do it” lifestyle born of the 1960s has proved to be destructive and deadly.</blockquote>  I agree with all of these things, but can’t hear them coming from Ted Nugent. From him it sounds more like “The Nudge,” instead of another one of his favorite self-monikers, “The Nuge.” It’s too much Nugent saying, “Do as I say, not as I do,” especially since his battle to avoid paying for his illegitimate kid was just two years ago. (Everyone falls for his phony act, though, since Nugent was once named “Father of the Year,” by some ignorant group.)

And here’s how he got out of serving in Vietnam, where many of his fans died fighting. From a July 15, 1990 Detroit Free Press Sunday Magazine profile:

<blockquote>  And he is equally proud that the Michigan Legislature this year proclaimed him a “wholesome, traditional” man of “honesty, integrity, loyalty and patriotism.”

But Nugent wanted no part of Vietnam. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine.

That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says, although the Free Press was unable to verify his draft status.

“The men who went should be applauded, but if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the hippies in the foxholes . . . I would have killed everybody.” [DS: In other words, let them do the job for me, while I rock and lounge over here in safety. Whatever, Ted.]

WITH HIS WORRIES ABOUT THE draft out of the way — “I never heard from them again” — Nugent focused on his band.</blockquote>  And don’t forget this from the New York Post in 2004:

<blockquote>  Courtney Love phoned into The Howard Stern Show on Monday (March 22) before eventually coming into the studio where she made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn’t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old – which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time. The New York Post attempted to contact Nugent for a response but was unsuccessful. Moderators at Nugent’s official forum deleted the only thread asking about the topic as evidenced by the forum’s search giving a file not found error for the matched thread. She added it was a long time ago and she didn’t even have breasts yet.</blockquote>  Ted Nugent also likes to call himself “the Motor City Madman” (he has a lot of bloated, self-important nicknames). But Ted Nugent moralizing to the rest of America as if he’s the opponent–instead of the embodiment–of ’60s morality doesn’t have a thing to do with the Motor City. It’s just plain Mad.

(Given all this, it’s notable that Sean the Plagiarist Hannity likes him so much and features him so much on his cable and radio show. Well, at least, I know this is one thing I’ve written that Vannity won’t be plagiarizing anytime soon.)

[nyantler]

Not sure we should judge people by what they did when they were 19 years old... 18 if we're talking about one of the children he and his girlfriend (then 17) gave up for adoption... who he recently reunited with. Things change .. people change... that doesn't mean you have to like them or there views... I did a lot of things as a youngster that I'm not proud of, but that's not the person I am today... just sayin'

[sits in trees]

Not sure we should judge people by what they did when they were 19 years old... 18 if we're talking about one of the children he and his girlfriend (then 17) gave up for adoption... who he recently reunited with. Things change .. people change... that doesn't mean you have to like them or there views... I did a lot of things as a youngster that I'm not proud of, but that's not the person I am today... just sayin'

(quote from above article)Nuge.” It’s too much Nugent saying, “Do as I say, not as I do,” especially since his battle to avoid paying for his illegitimate kid was just two years ago.

[Dave]

Not sure we should judge people by what they did when they were 19 years old... 18 if we're talking about one of the children he and his girlfriend (then 17) gave up for adoption... who he recently reunited with. Things change .. people change... that doesn't mean you have to like them or there views... I did a lot of things as a youngster that I'm not proud of, but that's not the person I am today... just sayin'

Antler, there is no negating your past, it's who you are good or bad. That's like saying that a person who kills someone when he is 18 is not a killer at 50. That's just trying to justify ones past mistakes but we are all accountable for our past no matter how old we are. Just look at our political system if it weren't for past mistakes being brought to light a lot of undiserable people would be in office. Not to say there already some in office who shouldn't be.

Dave

[First-light]

We should also remember he is an entertainer, this is how he makes his living and draws an audience. When Ted hunts alone in the woods does he make a noise?

Burt,

If I read this correctly, it sounds like we pretty much agree.  Like I said, the more we talk about this even negatively, it keeps his name circulating.  Doc, I totally agree. I am in no way endorsing him for anything. I do llike some of his music, but really am impressed with is guitar playing.  Is he in any way some representative for me?  UMMM NO

Yup I agree.

[growalot]

Sits in trees ...I really hope your sitting on high in a full body condom... because I would hate to think lifes little nasties.... what ever they maybe.... has EVER touched your little pure world..... soiling all that righteous indignation you hold for others..

I'm sorry but unless his past has effected you ...who are you to fly his past like a kite on a beach for all to see

I admit I have a lot of issues my self with ppl and have no problem airing my opinions ...but notice I don't publicly spout their names...event though I have proof to back up my words and legalities wouldn't be a problem...For those ppl...... maybe A holes during hunting season...... and decent ppl any other time of year

Now knowing this is just going to end in a waste of time....Fire away ..I'm done on this :

[SteveMcD]

I have mixed opinions about Ted. Part of me says yes, he has done some good things for the sport in terms of getting young people involved, and keeping them down the right path instead of drugs. Then another part of me says, he's bad for hunting and gives us a black eye. The "kill'em & grill'em" mentality is too much for me... he puts himself out there as the perfect hunting fiend whacko that the Anti's love to portray all of us as.

[nyantler]

Antler, there is no negating your past, it's who you are good or bad. That's like saying that a person who kills someone when he is 18 is not a killer at 50. That's just trying to justify ones past mistakes but we are all accountable for our past no matter how old we are. Just look at our political system if it weren't for past mistakes being brought to light a lot of undiserable people would be in office. Not to say there already some in office who shouldn't be.

Dave

I would agree with that if we're talking about violent criminal activity or murder... but having kids out of wedlock and trying to avoid going to vetnam when a kid is 18 ... isn't the same in my opinion... I'm not talking about negating the past... but maybe reflecting on it and learning from it...making you a much different person than you were then... especially when we're talking about growing from a snot nosed teenager to a responsible adult... I myself am not going to judge a person by what he did when he was a kid... and I would hope that person might give me the same courtesy... If I'm not going to like Ted Nugent... I'm not going to like him for what he does today not 40 years ago.

[nyantler]

I have mixed opinions about Ted. Part of me says yes, he has done some good things for the sport in terms of getting young people involved, and keeping them down the right path instead of drugs. Then another part of me says, he's bad for hunting and gives us a black eye. The "kill'em & grill'em" mentality is too much for me... he puts himself out there as the perfect hunting fiend whacko that the Anti's love to portray all of us as.

I feel kinda the same Steve.. but I think that most hunters fit the "hunting fiend whacko" profile... unfortunately.

[sits in trees]

Sits in trees ...I really hope your sitting on high in a full body condom... because I would hate to think lifes little nasties.... what ever they maybe.... has EVER touched your little pure world..... soiling all that righteous indignation you hold for others..

I'm sorry but unless his past has effected you ...who are you to fly his past like a kite on a beach for all to see

I admit I have a lot of issues my self with ppl and have no problem airing my opinions ...but notice I don't publicly spout their names...event though I have proof to back up my words and legalities wouldn't be a problem...For those ppl...... maybe A holes during hunting season...... and decent ppl any other time of year

Now knowing this is just going to end in a waste of time....Fire away ..I'm done on this :

whhhaaaaa? nothing worse than an immigrant trying to sound smart