Bballhunter11 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Ok probably going to get a hundred different answers here but thats kind of what im looking for. If you had to pick a caliber to have a target rifle in what would it be and why? Im considering bolt action rifle chamberings right now and am just comparing differences in cartridges such as 204 ruger, 223, 260, 7mm-08, 308, 25-06 ect. Any opinions or research is welcome thanks alot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Just for target practice? I wouldnt buy anything other than a 22 for that. If I wanted to shoot longer ranges, Id go with a 223. The biggest factor in each of these, ammo prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Unless you are going to reload , don't go with a 25-06 . I have one and the ammo is almost twice the price of a 270 . Target practice ? Probably a 22 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 I bought a 243 after shooting one at the range one day.When Ihave time I love to grab that rifle and go shooting.The nice thing is I can also use that caliber for anything up to deer.It is nice to shoot and very little recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Just wondering if you could give more info on the type of target shooting you are talking about. .......Just for fun?.....100 yard and under?....300 Yard .....1000 yard.........competition? Like the guys mentioned before there are cost considerations....and at longer ranges...ballistic considerations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bballhunter11 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Thanks for all the quick answers. I am getting into reloading currently, i have to in order to shoot 222 magnum at all it isnt commercially available and brass is 40.00 per hundred so anything i choose to shoot along with it will be close in price a little less or little more. Culver just for fun currently but we are shooting clay pigeons at 200+ yards currently (a competition will no doubt develop soon in the group) and looking at the possibility of entering F-class or high power in the future, some shoots are held very close to where i live. Competitions in my area i think are 300 yards, simulation 600. I really like the 7mm-08 cartridge from hunting experience because of the accuracy of the 7mm bullet and the low recoil from the 308 case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I'd agree with ny hunter, I'm also a .243 fan. Wouldn't mind a go with a 25-06 though, something about the quarter bore fasinates me. I wouldn't overlook the 22mag, alot of fun to shoot and 50 rounds a box. You can get ammo for it almost anywhere. Friend of mine at work has a Rem tripple duce 788 that's a sweet shooter. He absolutly refuses to part with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santamour123 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 It all depends on what type of target shooting. 100yard benchrest .223 (got one and love it .069" groups) long range bench .308 or 6.5x284( better in the wind) All around I had a 6mmBR that was great for both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If you are looking for a great long range round, take a look into the .260 Remington, very popular with many competition shooters and brass is easy, as it is a necked down .308 also the 6.5 Grendel is an awesome round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkzfixme Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I am particularly fond of the C & R military guns especially for target practice. A Mosin Nagant 91/30 will cost you around a hundred bucks and is good out to 1000 yards. Ammo is dirt cheap around 90 bucks for 440 rounds, and you can really drive tacks with just a trigger job. I also like the swedish mauser for its light recoil and legendary accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT6246 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If you can get your hands on the latest 'Handloader' magazine, there are two very interesting articles about .260/ 6.5 mm caliber guns with very high ballistic coefficients. Other than the .260 Rem though it sounds like strictly a handloading proposition. I don't have any experience with these calibers, but it's good reading. The articles do mention the 7mm-08. If you already have a .222, and are serious about long range work and possibly hunting applications, I'd think you'd want to look at one of the calibers great than .22. I have a 7mm Rem. which I am very fond of but recoil (and cost) can become an issue for casual shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 If you can get your hands on the latest 'Handloader' magazine, there are two very interesting articles about .260/ 6.5 mm caliber guns with very high ballistic coefficients. Other than the .260 Rem though it sounds like strictly a handloading proposition. I don't have any experience with these calibers, but it's good reading. The articles do mention the 7mm-08. If you already have a .222, and are serious about long range work and possibly hunting applications, I'd think you'd want to look at one of the calibers great than .22. I have a 7mm Rem. which I am very fond of but recoil (and cost) can become an issue for casual shooting. 260 is a great round, but the selection of factory ammo is slim. I have a TC Encore pistol chambered in 260, as does one of my friends. If you really want to get the best out of it, and really any other caliber, hand loading is the way to go. Btw, I get very nice groups at 200 yards with my handgun with factory loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bballhunter11 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Any outdoor shops around me are carrying such a small selection of ammo recently i cant find anything i like there any way which is why i began handloading. Hunt ill try and get ahold of that magizene and take a look. The 7-08 is a joy to shoot all day compared to its other 7mm cousins lol handloading will probably be my only source of ammo from now on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Does any one have anything bad to say about the 7mm-08? I feel like I need to go get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bballhunter11 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 my younger brother has used it on deer here for 3-4 years and i have taken a couple deer with it and was quite impressed with it. We bought a second one to have before last deer season. Havent shot anything bigger than deer with it yet but it is going on a bear hunt in two weeks. I dont have anything negative to say about it except ammo scarcity, so if u reload or just order a good amount to keep in stock its a great round. Have you ever shot one ny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Never fired one.There seems to be a lot of people talking about the round,and like I said no one has any thing negative to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Ok guys...some one clue me in. Am I missing something. I have two friends that swear by their 7mm-08. They hunt deer and bear with it and have never conveyed any problems with it. I asked them why they opted for that rather than a good old fashioned .308 and could not get a good response other than they both like the next new coolest thing. In my view the ammo for a .308 is more readily available, cheaper and I really can't see a recoil or ballistic difference to justify the choice. The one thing the 7mm does have is a much wider selection of bullets under 150 grains. If this was a varmit/predator/deer/black bear gun I could see the sizing down option. If I was taeget shooting and mainly hunting deer and bear I would probably go with the .308. The .308 I believe is the 7.62 NATO wich does give an option for surplus ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I would completely agree with Culver. If you are going to be doing a lot of shooting and will be using factory ammo than the 7mm-08 and any of the other choices mentioned here will be considerably more expensive than a .308. If you want to shoot a lot and for as little money as possible than the 3 least expensive choices are the .22LR, .223 and the .308. You will have a slew of ammo available for these calibers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Culver,I was just asking.No one seems to say anything bad about this round.I want to get myself a 308 this year.But all the talk just had me wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Didn't mean it to sound angry or with a chip on my shoulder guys. I don't have a dog in this fight. I shoot an .06...lol Just conveying my discussion with my buddies and was hoping someone had a justification they couldn't come up with. They are gadget guys....surprised one of them hasn't bought a 50 cal. yet due to all the internet videos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bballhunter11 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Same here culver my main hunting round is an 30-06, a 7-08 i think has a considerable amount of less recoil than a 308. It takes less energy to push a 7mm bullet to same or high velocitys than it does an 30 caliber round thus producing less recoil. Not much of a difference for you and me but for my younger brother and girlfriend who are less than 150 pounds it makes it a manageable round for them to hunt with. 7mm is a little cheaper to reload than 308 but factory like you said 308 has surplus. 7mm also has a small ballistic advantage. So 7mm uses less powder, produces less recoil and still hits just as hard at a 30 caliber are the reasons i am looking at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 You did not come across that way at all,I just asked about the round.I well never give up my 30-06 or 270.Just thought I might be missing something.NO HARM NO FOUL.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 LOL......Bball...you hit one of my other pet peeves. recoil. now if we just look at a ballistic chart and muzzle energy values. It has been years and years since physics class so bare with me. The muzzle energy is directly proportional to the felt recoil. a gun shooting 2 different powder charges with the same weight bullet will have a higher muzzle energy for the higher powder charge....and a higher felt recoil. but if we take any caliber, any powder charge and any bullet ....if the energy at the muzzle is the same.....the felt recoil should be the same....Right? assuming the same style (bolt, auto loader) and weight gun. so we have 2 bolt actions of the same weight..... if a .308 of a given combination ....and a 7mm-.08 of another combination have the same muzzle energy.....the recoil should feel the same..... There are several 7mm-.08 and .308 rounds that have the same muzzle energy so recoil should be similiar. The benefit of the 7mm is the much lighter bullets are more available than they are for the .308 so the two people you talked about might be shooting like a 125 gr round. I know I can feel the difference in the 165's and the 180's i shoot out of my .06. Hard to believe 15 grains can make a difference....or maybe it is just in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 You did not come across that way at all,I just asked about the round.I well never give up my 30-06 or 270.Just thought I might be missing something.NO HARM NO FOUL.......... I am with you on that.....mine has never fallen short ....as long as I do what I am supposed to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 HA HA thats gonna open a whole new can of worms.I have said for years if my 06 can't kill it I well let it walk because I well never shoot a gun with more recoil.I am a sissy when it comes to a hrd kicking rifle.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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