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when my youngest daughter turned 12 I got her a Remington 870 20 gage youth model she is now 25 and still use this gun

20ga bantam model mossberg 500. Not a big fan of mossberg but i bought one for my girlfriend who recently got her license, (shes 105 pounds) and she says its like shooting a BB gun. Easy to clean and the safety is, well safe. He'll grow out of it relatively quickley but for a gun to make him not shy away and flinch at recoil, its the way to go.

I'm heading down to the southern tier for a family reunion and thought I'd stop and hang my two trail cams and see what's hanging around. I find a couple cards and then start looking for my cameras..........look here, look there and can't find the darn things. Are they in the WOODS still? Holy crappers...............I'll check later on and we'll see! I hope not but they could be safer there than here!!

didn't you put up your cameras in the bedroom just for laughs?

Thanks! A lot of good suggestions. I too was thinking a semi-auto in 20ga.

A 20 gauge is a good choice..Another consideration is action type.. A gas operated auto has considerably less felt recoil than any fixed breech gun. All that said, a twelve gauge is somewhat more versatile, and you can avoid excessive recoil by using light field loads, rather than the high velocity or magnum loads. Twelve gauge low brass loads with 1 or 1 1/8 oz. of shot kick no worse than comparable 20 gauge loads and kill small game and upland birds just fine.

I agree and 20 gauge should be sufficient, just don't have him go out and start target practicing with slugs or buck shot haha

We saw Hunter Hayes and Dustin Lynch last night, both were great. Just amazing how Hunter at the age of 21 is so talented. He cranked out country, rock and deep southern blues! A picture of Me and my girls! The older one melted when he took stage................off to the cabin in an hour!

I have no doubt that activities that concentrate deer onto an exact specific spot cannot be a real healthy thing to do. This is yet another issue that I have with baiting/feeding, and apparently the DEC is convinced its not a real good idea too. I do not always understand some of the DEC positions on various topics, but I will trust their judgment on issues of deer biology and herd health. And yes, in this regard, we are all potentially impacted by this guy that Eddie was talking to. And maybe speaking up is minding our own business .... lol.

I have a hard enough time hunting them during the season, they could open it up year round and I'd still be lucky to call a couple in a year.

Yeah, I'm no lover of coyotes, but I do suspect that perhaps the campaign against them has gone a bit beyond reality. I should qualify that by saying, "in our area". I hesitate to make sweeping statements about what may be going on in other parts of the state. I can hear all the irate replies now .... lol. To me the coyote is simply another furbearer who has a fairly generous hunting season already. My suggestion to those that want to see fewer of them would be to get out there during the current coyote season and actively hunt them .... hard! Then skin the critters, sell the furs, and put the money in your pocket to pay for the gas and ammo. You want to be even more effective, get your trapping certificate and a couple dozen traps and good trapping book and set out a trap-line. By the time you get done, you won't be wanting to see those critters wasted with summertime hunting either.

Place looks like a jungle .. lol.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of pictorial and video evidence to the contrary in magazine articles and TV programs where if you look real carefully off to the side near some of these monster bucks, you might spot the feeder that put these deer in front of the box-blind or whatever. Unless there is something extremely unique about NYS that makes our big bucks a lot more cautious than anywhere else ..... lol. I don't know about the "3 counties over" qualifier, but yes, feeders attract deer in from other properties. And of course they attract a lot more does and young bucks than mature ones simply because there are more of them. As a side issue, I have read about states where feeding/baiting is legal where guys are feeling compelled to maintain bait/feeding stations just to level the playing field with surrounding neighbors. A lot of this activity amounts to "deer hoarding" where hunters are attempting to draw the deer away from their neighbor's land. Who the hell needs that going on in your hunting area. Again, the mentality behind all of these kinds of things is to modify wild deer behavior to facilitate the baiter's success. Real good deal for manufacturers who sell bait-stations and commercial deer food. Not all that good for guys that are just barely able to afford what licenses and the hunting equipment they have now.

"You can't see me"

first real fawn this year and the first real fawn last year,

That just means you have all the summering buck...

nope. i received a kit for christmas many years ago with a vhs in it. I watched it and they pronounce it "rap-a-la" haha. I was like "hey dad we've been calling these the wrong thing for years". He told me he didn't care and continues to call them "ra-pel-a" Check out their channel http://www.youtube.com/user/Rapala