Doc

How the heck did this state and others get into this commie mentality? Is it something in the water or some new kind of pandemic? I would really like to hear from some of our resident pinkos, as to just how they justify voting for these people. I understand that we didn't vote for Hochul, but enough residents voted for Cuomo to set up the crazy nonsense that seems to have taken root in this state and the nation. And when I look at the bigger picture, how do you people justify putting in Biden. My gosh Democrats have to be feeling awful embarrassed by now. How many times do you have to get hit in the head before you finally understand that votes matter. You really do have to treat these elections like something other than a personality contest.

I believe I was about 11 years old when I crafted my first longbow from a hickory stave cut off the hill. I built some crude un-fletched willow arrows and went to the hay mow of our barn to get two pigeons. I plucked them and had my mother cook them up for me. That was my first hunt. Then sometime around 1960 I bought my first commercial recurve. It was a Ben Pearson that started my archery deer hunting. That also was about the time that I went deer hunting with a buddy using my first shotgun ( an old 20 guage bent-barrel Mossberg.

Many people are already "very angry". So what. They don't convert that anger into votes. We have our NYC commies that decide how elections will be coming out. Heck, even out here in upstate NY we have more than our share of libs. It gets worse every year. There really is no end to it.......until eventually we're in so deep in this socialist quagmire and fuzzy thinking that there is no turning back. Maybe we're there already.

No, it was not in the 1980's when compounds were introduced to the NYS bow season. And it was not a generational thing either. I was there when that all happened. I remember when there was a lot of talk about how the compound would become a precedent to start including everything into "Bow season". And you know they were pretty darn far-sighted people who were right on the money. There may even come a day when bow usage will be simply merged in with gun season. I guess a lot of that will come after my time.....thankfully. But I hear more and more people questioning why a "bow season" is even necessary anymore. As technology continues to take over bow season implements, their argument gets stronger and stronger.

Well, I am not so sure that I could survive the mosquitos that we have right now. I have never seen them so vicious. I don't think the deer would be interested in approaching a critter that was swinging wildly trying to keep from being drained of blood. I suspect that the DEC is not getting what they wanted out of this early season. It kind of is turning out to be a lot of controversy created over nothing.

So with all the controversy and theorizing and such about this early season, what are your observations. In our part of 8N, I doubt that the deer are even aware that there is a deer season open. I have heard more shooting from squirrel hunters in past years. I checked out a very popular state hunting land parking lot and it was completely empty at 1:00 PM. Two questions: 1. Where the heck are all the hunters? 2. Did all this crazy messing with seasons really accomplish anything at all other than stirring up controversy So what are the observations of others that live or hunt in the affected areas?

Well, I will not be affected by the new laws regarding blaze orange. During firearms deer seasons, I am always a glowing orange beacon.....lol. HOWEVER..... We must not assume that because it is a law now that the lack of blaze orange is a signal that the coast is clear to shoot. Remember that there are people out performing outdoor chores and hikers and mountain bikers and the law does not apply to them. Nothing replaces good safety mentality. Check out the background behind whatever you are shooting at.

To be honest, I don't believe that there has been any scientific study done on the effects pro or con regarding masks. There has been a lot of layman speculation and guesswork, but I haven't heard of any credible studies actually being conducted. Has any of you heard of such studies? On the other hand, Trump's vaccines have been studied to death, not only by lab studies but also actual vaccinations of millions of people. I had no fear of the big dreaded and horrifying needle.....lol.

Is it firearms only, or can you hunt with a bow during that season?

It is probably more likely that deer get back to diurnal activity after gun season is the shortage of food leaves them little choice at that time of year. I don't know about anyone else, but Actual gun hunting days seem to be pretty darn quiet after opening weekend, and the only deer moving at all are those that are kicked up by other gun hunters still-hunting. Well anyway, we will see this year. There won't be any guessing after we actually see what happens, one way or another.

I remember when crossing the road out front we used to stare at any car that happened to go by because chances are it was somebody we knew. Now it seems that that same road is just a constant stream of cars. And when the fall leaves are in full color, you may not be able to get across the road at all without a good long wait. I remember climbing half way up the huge hill in the dark on opening day and looking down on the highway below, seeing the continuous long line of headlights that looked like a huge snake coming down the valley. Now opening day traffic doesn't look much heavier that normal work-day traffic. I remember back in the early 60's, it was kind of unusual to ever see a bowhunter in the woods on state land. It almost seemed like a wilderness hunt (35 miles outside of Rochester). Quite different today. I remember when we didn't have to lock the door to the house. I remember when most of our neighbors were small family farmers. Those lands are being covered up with houses now.

Yes we can guess, but soon we will know, one way or another. I know that all through the crossbow arguments, everybody talked about all the old guys who want to hunt during the warmer weather. Well, now in those chosen areas they can. Is that argument really true? Well I guess now we will put it to the test.

Well finally something we agree on. The bow season will indeed morph into whatever technology that we can come up with and there really is no limit on that. Nobody will draw a line in the sand and say enough is enough. That is why I believe that with these kinds of attitudes, we will see everything imaginable (including firearms) thrown into our so-called bow season eventually. It is getting harder and harder to justify any need for a special "bow season". Yes indeed, the precedent was set with the compound, and the crossbow will set a whole new round of precedents. Each step leads to the next and nobody has will to say, "Enough!"

Ha-ha-ha-ha.......This Trump Derangement Syndrome will never end. He certainly got under the skin of the socialist wing of the party, to the extent that they can't seem to shake it.....lol. Actually, I can understand their all of their blathering about Trump. The fact is that the only way they can try to coverup the endless parade of screw-ups by poor ol' Sleepy Joe is by non-stop filibustering about an administration that no longer exists. Don't you people realize how pathetic you all sound? My gosh it is time to confess that you voted for Blundering Biden simply because he pulled one over on you. He hid in his basement and everybody treated the election like a popularity contest. And now look what you all did to the country. This is Biden's administration that we are stuck with, not Trump's. Let's see if you all can keep that straight.

Is that what determines whether or not a person is anti-crossbow? I believe that the crossbow is a perfectly acceptable deer hunting implement........In the proper season. I hate to say it, but that was a rather stupid question given the context of the discussion.

My biggest curiosity about a gun season occurring before bow season is the question of will the deer go into their survival mode early because of it. Part of that "survival mode" is nocturnal activity. This is something that I have noted in our area every gun season. The deer take on a completely different attitude after opening day. Will this now impact bow seasons? We'll see.

You have a real happy birthday Eddie. You're one of the few here that's actually older than I am and another long-time member too. I don't celebrate birthdays anymore, but I have to admit that another birthday sure does beat the alternatives......lol.

There is another thing that occurred to me. We have some state land that is heavily used by mountain bikers and hikers. In the past they have ceased their activities when the firearms deer season opened up. They probably will not be aware that the DEC has snuck this early firearms season in. Also, I doubt that any of them will be wearing blaze orange (the law does not require them to if they are not deer hunting.....right?). I suppose as soon as the guns start blazing, they will be fleeing the woods. I imagine that the deer will be taking the hint and go into their survival mode like they do during every regular gun season. They should be completely nocturnal by the time the bow season opens. Can't say for sure..........I guess we will have to wait and see.

I may go out during the early season for as long as I can before the skeeters drain me of blood. No, it would be interesting to check out the activity to see just how badly bow season may be screwed up. I also want to see how the regular opening day is impacted by this new season opener. I think it may be interesting. I know that other years, once opening weekend is finished, things go pretty silent. This early season may dull the usual participation that we normally see on the regular opener, and prove to be contrary to what they are trying to do. I guess we just have to wait and see.

It is amazing how many died-in-the-wool socialists are now heading for the hills and denying all support of Biden. What???.....who me?......Oh no I never even voted for the guy.....Oh no, not me.....Honest. I don't blame you. It has to be terribly humiliating the way everything is turning out for you all. Those people who hated Trump's personality and saw the election as some kind of popularity contest instead of looking at Biden's record an conduct during the campaign have got to be completely embarrassed.

Who ever said I was anti-crossbow. I don't believe I have ever said anything that anyone could call anti-crossbow. I do have opinions on proper bow seasons and safe-guarding the intent of that season without cramming every weapon that nobody knows what else to do with into that season. I was unaware that members here were assigned certain forums that they can use and certain ones that we cannot use. Is someone making up new rules now?

It is good not to become so focused on one thing that you miss out on all else. As an old fart, I can tell you a bit about how fast time flies by, and how so much of life gets lost zeroing all of your attention on just one thing. I see your attitude as being very flexible and able to grab onto the important aspects of life before they slip away forever. That is something that we don't all have the foresight to do as the years quickly tick away.

Why would anyone fear the "Trump vaccine"?

I haven't had a vacation day for 17 years ever since I retired. Every day is a vacation day......lol. That's the good news. The problem now is that the older I get, the more that "killer hill" behind the house takes out of me....ha-ha-ha. It's too bad we can't retire first while we're in prime condition and then start working as we get old. I guess it really can't work that way.

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