Doc

I have a similar arbitrary rule of posting except I have always used 3 signs as the minimum number that are always visible no matter how you approach the line. There is no using the story that you didn't see the signs.

Actually, back when I was competitively shooting I had both boys and my wife involved, and all the members of the club were a great bunch of people. It was an "add" to the list of friends and additional time spent with the family. I guess you make of it what you want. It's just another hobby and a whole bunch of fun for those that enjoy archery.

I spent quite a few years shooting NFAA events, back when I was a young squirt. I have to say that even though I never got real great at it, it was a blast. Just a whole additional aspect to archery. Also, I can't say that it did my hunting any harm either. You should try it. You might get hooked.....lol.

I see reading is not one of your strong suits. I have not disputed any of the statements (fact or otherwise) that you have made. My posts regard the fact that you apparently have no credentials to be able to claim your feigned expertise. And more important is your tone of condescension and frankly just your nasty personality that you come across with at every post. I have to tell you, I quite often have problems with boasting blowhards that spend most of their time patting themselves on the back and demanding that everyone recognize their self-proclaimed expertise. I don't even care if you might be accidently correct once in a while. I will say that when it comes to credibility of those that are trained and educated in the field of biology, vs. someone whose claim to fame is that he is a deer farmer, you come off a poor second in the area of believability no matter how much you rant and rave and pathetically claim to be the world's leading authority on CWD.

The real amusement is watching the left melt down. They have gone into a self-destruct mode, and it is getting hilarious.

You are definitely skilled to the point where you need separate bulls eyes for each arrow. Avoid the expensive damage that is sure to happen to your arrows. Have you considered competitive shooting? It can be an addictive thing that is a heck of a lot of fun.

As I said before, the burden of proof for all your nonsensical prattle is on you. I am not the one challenging the organized biological entities of the state. It isn't me that is so desperate to show what an expert I am. Where are your credentials that show how much more of an expert you are than the college educated NYS game management biologist. Before you launch your tirade against other members claiming that they are saps or all the other derogatory terms that you are so fond of, maybe you should have at least some credentials that give you some status as an authority on the subject yourself. Otherwise you are nothing but just another person with an opinion and an overblown view of yourself and an overly aggressive and unfriendly personality. Perhaps you should dial it back a bit, settle down, and try to have a calm, intelligent conversation for a change. You might even get some people that are willing to listen to what you are trying to say.

The very first critters I ever hunted was pigeons up in our hay loft. I used a hand carved hickory longbow and un-fletched willow arrows. Dad always wondered how those shingles got blown off the barn roof from the inside. I got quite a few, butchered them like little chickens, and found out that they were some darned good eating. I also learned that bowhunting and archery was a hobby that would last a lifetime.

It's kind of nice that you don't have to plow or shovel heat. Also heat seldom causes your car to slide off the road. I can't remember the last time that heat affected my water pipes. I will admit that heat does cause me to go into an "activity-slump", but then, that's what they created air conditioning for.

Actually, the burden of proof for what is being blabbed about is on you. As far as I can tell, you are simply laying statements out there and saying that we have to believe because you are calling yourself some kind of expert. I have seen no credentials listed that make you a credible expert or anyone who is worth listening to. You seem to think you know more than the NYS game biologists, but at least they have a degree that lends them some credibility. Where's your wildlife management degree? I'm sorry, but there comes a time in all your raving when somebody has to call you out. Let's see your long list of credentials. If it so desperately important to you that we consider you some sort of expert, at least give us a reason to believe anything you have to say.

About 3 minutes ago, wifey just dropped off a 1" long section of kielbasa wrapped in bacon. I'm ready to go out in the kitchen looking for more. It's not something to offset the heat, but as a party snack (appetizer), it was pretty darn good.

I don't have to be a CWD expert to recognize rudeness, distasteful personal attacks and an almost frantic need to be considered some kind of expert. I am curious as to your credentials that make you worth listening to. I am also curious as to how you think those credentials are enhanced by displaying an argumentative and belligerent personality. I also must add that just because you have been in the deer farming business does not make you a wild game biologist. But it is for sure that someone who stands around trying frantically to convince every one of their expertise probably doesn't really have any. Hard to believe but I guess you have never heard the term of "having an ax to grind", but it is always kind of smart to regard with suspicion the arguments of someone who has a financial reason to color their opinions.

It sure does look like a fresh antler rub, but I think that at this stage of antler growth, the antlers would be a bit too tender for rubbing. It will be interesting to see what others think. But one does have to wonder what else that could be. I don't even have a guess unless somebody is playing a trick on you with the back side of their hunting knife.

Frankly I am always a bit suspicious of self-anointed experts whose only credibility is their own word. It could be that your self-proclaimed expertise has more to do with your own personal (financial) axe to grind than any real bona fide research and knowledge.

Love following this project through pictures. Keep them coming!

I'll admit that I don't know anything about deer farming, and frankly I have no real interest in learning much about it. But My comment has nothing to do with business, but simply civility in discussions. Somehow I don't think that being rude to a member here will have much impact on the bottom line of his business. I really don't see the correlation. If there is a problem with government administration vs business, this is probably not the place to take out frustrations against other members.

It does add a level of amusement to the national news.

It's the new Maxine Waters debating style ..... lol. Can't you just picture the bulging vein in the forehead, and the spit flying out of the mouth as FSW loses his mind at learning there are actually people that would dare to disagree with him. It's just a personality thing with him ..... Don't be concerned.

This happens often when I am sitting in my chair watching TV. All of a sudden, I will turn my head and look out the window just in time to watch a deer crossing the yard, or a fox, or a coyote, or some other critter. I have no idea why at that particular moment, I took my eyes and attention of something I was intently watching on TV to look out the window. The angle that the TV is, is away from the window. It happens often enough so that I know it is not just a coincidence.

What must it be like to be a Schumer, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, etc., etc., watching the impressive string of achievements that Trump is assembling during his term. And those achievements are all happening in spite of the frenzied best attempts at framing, resistance, and obstruction. And all of this effort with a left-leaning press in their pocket, twisting and sorting out what news to report and how to report it. Imagine how impotent they all must feel and what absolute failures they must regard themselves as. Is it any wonder that you get to see Maxine wild-eyed and screaming and ranting with spit flying out of her mouth, totally out of control and seemingly in the midst of a mental breakdown. And poor Nancy Pelosi periodically doing her best impression of a complete imbecile. These are the faces of the Democrat Party. All a complete laughing stock. The only scary part of it all is that no one knows for sure just how far some of their minions will go when it comes to lethal violence. Evidence shows that the left is moving closer and closer to violence with several individuals and organizations already crossing that line. Their leadership seems to be pointing them more and more in that direction. This latest episode where he is getting a second whack at the Supreme Court almost has them speaking in tongues, and all that with Ruth Ginsberg not looking all that healthy, perhaps to provide a third opportunity. The imprint left behind by this President will have impact for generations. It is not beyond the realm of possibility to think that history will eventually see him as the most successful and important president in modern history. That would truly drive the left over the edge.

I am only relating actions that I see every year. Call it what you want, but somehow their behavior seems to recognize the coming and going of deer seasons, what scents truly mean danger and when, and even occasionally what human activity and behavior is threatening and what is not. Is that learned behavior and some form of fundamental reasoning, I'll let others determine that. But there are plenty of examples where deer have modified their patterns and behavior from what they would perceive as "close calls" and experiences. Base instinct can only go so far with explaining some of that.

I am not really sure, but there have been some unique hardware left behind in the woods that are related to the oil drilling industry in southern NYS and PA. People have found old hit & miss engines and a system of push-rods strung throughout the woods that powered pumps for oil-well drilling. Perhaps this is a part of some pulley system used for this purpose.

One thing that cannot be denied is that deer learn and have some level of reasoning. I am reminded of that every year when all of a sudden all these spooky, reclusive, deer start showing up grazing on my front yard within days of the close of the hunting season. They do not need a game-laws syllabus and a calendar to figure out that hunting season is over. We hunters obsess over scent elimination to keep the wily whitetail from catching our scent and disappearing before we even see them. And yet I have watched them graze over top of piles of dog feces and not even flinch. I have also seen them munching on shrubs that are within a yard of our front door with no concern about the human scent all over that area. They seem to be able to assess situations and make decisions based on logic and reasoning.

Yes, the heavy pressure of NYS does offer the deer more encounters with hunters. And yes that intense "conditioning" could very well make them a tougher animal to hunt. They do seem to be able to separate out the harmless wanderings and shootings of small game hunters, and understand when they themselves become the target of humans. I find that in itself quite remarkable. And I also believe that the more encounters they receive, the more they start putting two and two together and begin employing a heavy-duty survival mode to their lifestyle.

There was a comment on another thread that made me start wondering about a deer's ability to learn and become a more elusive prey. What do you all think about the possibility that deer hunted in states with more pressure becoming more educated by more common encounters, and becoming what appears to be "smarter" than deer in states where the pressure is lighter? Do you think that pressured deer adopt better escape and hiding abilities?