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For a shotgun for my 12 yo son. He is taking the hunters ed course next Monday and I would like to surprise him with his own shotgun when he gets his small game license. I was thinking of a 20ga for him to start with and which he can use through his teens. The only thing he shot was a .22 rifle this past wek at camp, and which has basically no recoil. I don't want to give him a 12 ga and turn him off with the recoil. Any thoughts?

Finally an article favoring hunters who donate venison to NYS hunger programs. http://www.observertoday.com/page/content.detail/id/586516/Schumer-seeks-tax-deductions-for-hunters-who-donate-game.html?nav=5047

Finally got more clothes and old blankets to stuff it with. I need more.... Painted some basic targets for now. I think I'm going to buy some Arrowmat silhouette targets for the other side.

Don't you know the answer? Perpetual 29......

Hey Paula! Happy Birthday to you! And many more..... I hope you enjoy the day...and see some sun perhaps? Lol.

Here is the Court's decision http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/ad3/Decisions/2013/516341.pdf

Enjoy! My Fourth will be spent with family and then we will be celebrating my son's 12th Birthday on Saturday after we pick him up from camp. He's away this week at Camp Yawgoog Boy Scout Reservation in RI. It's his first time away from home for more than one night. He called last night to tell me he was working on several merit badges including Rifle shooting. He shot a .22 long with iron sights hitting the bullseye at 20 yards. I could hear him smiling through the phone. I think he's ready for the hunters ed course. Can't wait to sit in the woods with him this coming October! Be safe all!

I realize that. No offense taken.

I know you may find this hard to believe but some of us lawyers have morals. I would not take a case like the walmart situation because I would not want the bad publicity nor would I want to be known as the d-bag lawyer who represented the scumbag. This why I don't handle criminal matters. I can't bring myself to do that no matter what the potential fee may be.

Speaking as a lawyer, I beg the question - are we a litigious society where people will sue at the drop of a hat? Absolutely! But I can't fathom any lawyer taking a case like this on behalf of the suspect's family. The cop was clearly justified in doing what he did to save that little girl. The only reason I can see a lawyer taking on a case like this would be for publicity, albeit bad publicity. On the other hand, in the Hempstead accidental cop shooting of the hostage, if the family can prove that the cop acted with reckless disregard for the safety of the girl, then there is a strong liability case. If recklessness cannot be shown, then there is no case. This is because cops, and firemen, who are acting in the course of their employment when they accidentally injure or harm a third party, have qualified immunity from suit as long as their actions do not amount to recklessness. Otherwise cops would do nothing in situations like this for fear of being sued. Sorry for the legal lesson....

I hope that the 2 yo won't really understand what happened and won't be scarred for life from this incident.

True. It was a tough situation for the cop in Nassau. He must have feared for his life and took the risk, albiet a fatal one for the girl and the d-bag. But no one other than the cop can say what actually went down just before the shooting. According to reports the twin of the hostage ran out of the house when the cop arrived and a male friend was hiding behind the couch when the perp aimed the gun at the cop. I still think he should have backed out and waited for cooler heads to take over. In the Walmart case, there were two cops working together for a 1/2 hour negotiating wth the guy before the one cop shot him again at point blank range. Perhaps if the Nassau cop backed out the end result could have been for the better or it could have been worse. No one will ever know.

Agreed. But you cant compare that cause the dirtbag in Hempstead had a gun. I think the cop was wrong in Nassau County incident. Here I think he did the right thing. Point blank compared to across a room. And You know the old saying. "Never bring a knife to a gun fight."

I'm sure some of you have heard about and/or seen the video of the wacko who took a 2 yo kid out of a shopping cart near her mother and held her at knife point. http://youtu.be/23uPQgaJ24Y As negotiations broke down, while one cop distracted the wackjob another lunged at the guy and shot him point blank in the head instantly killing him and grabbing the little girl bringing her to safety. The news reports say that the guy was mentally disturbed. I had a discussion with my wife about this during dinner and whether the cop's actions were correct. She was of the opinion that the cop should not have done that because the guy was mentally ill. . I disagreed and said I would have done the same thing the cop did if the opportunity presented itself. I asked her if God forbid it was our kid would you feel differently? She thought about it for 1/2 a second and said "I would have shot the guy myself"! I said "Thank you"! Point made! You mess with my family you will NOT live to regret it, (though my kids may have to visit me in prison).

Time for DEC to open a Yote season on Long Island.

Interesting . . .

My wife of 21 years grew up in a house of hunters - father, brother, brother in law - all of whom got me into it about 7 years ago. So she has no problem with me going during hunting seasons. In fact encourages me to take my son when I go scout and set up stands/blinds. This october will be the first time I plan on taking him turkey hunting.

Congratulations Eddie!

Sorry for your loss. Prayers and thoughts.

2013 Infiniti G37x black 330hp

Yeah... about 17 pages of nonsense . . .

You don't scare me ! After 46 years I've heard them all . . .

hmmm... this is getting good . . . . . . this thread went from rules for dating daughters to UP vs. DS, to food to insulting Italians . . . oh boy!

Yuck! Puke! There goes my coffee....