Culvercreek hunt club

To use you favorite line...."this is where your logic fails". Crossbows do not equate town animal being taken outside the rules of fair chase! And thereis mo rule stretchingbeing proposed....change of the law is. Thanks eddie....glad somehave basic logic

Hey Arrow.....do you have a microwave at home?....how about electricity?

Or they simply want to deer hunt with another impliment.....who started assigning motive in this thread? Seems to me it was you. I just call them like I see them. As I have started before...I have nointerest in using one at this point. They are not what they are cracked up to be.......but should I turn that into a crusade to limit other hunters choices....I don't believe in that......guess it is just fundamental beleif differences Arrow

I thought I was speaking French.....I am glad you guys understood. At least I have a clear understanding of Arrows true position. He can protest all he wants and make his claim based on his principles.....but it is clear he has none and is driven purely by his fear of others impact on his deer... By his own admission he has no desire to change things he sees as wrong...is all too willing to impose his views on others and stands for nothing other than his selfish interests...looks like a poster child for what is wrong with this country......no heart

You have never supported a law or rule change? Everything they put into law or a regulation is just fine with you?

So to utilize an analogy closer to home.... Those that lobbied for the recent rifle inclusion.....outlaws? Those trying for a dove season.....outlaws? Those working to repeal thelead shot for waterfowl....outlaws?

Dink....I hate typos. But by your definition they were outlaws.

Can I be honest here.....Arrow....you are probably the biggest sink I have seenposting. Thecomparison I made was absurd by design.....just to prove how absurd your position that anyone who tries to change a law is an outlaw

I am serious. You were the one that said folks trying to change an activity thatis illegal into an into a legal activity is an outlaw .. the actual activity should not mater unless your view is microscopic and selfserving.

For physically able during bowseason? Pretty much. Let's follow the current analogy. If you petition the gov to turn my Fly Fishing Only section of the river into anything goes....I would consider you an outlaw, trying to claim "respectability" by turning something clearly illegal into something "legal." No difference. I gues I just can't agree wit you because to follow you analogy I would see the inclusion as a change to artificial only....not an anything goes. But to continue your logic......any effort to change an activity that is currently illegal into an legal activity put a person into the category of an outlaw. There has been a lot of efforts to modify laws in the past and I do not believe those involved were outlaws. Women's sufferage.....all our civil rights law changes...prohibition....but in your eyes anyone that moved to modify a law on the books is an outlaw. hmmmmm. I am having a hard time believing you really mean to come across that ignorant

If they are causing damage call DEC. They will issue a permit to take them out of season and by any means. I don't even think they charge for it. You don't want the little buggers having a litter and increasing your problem.

You bet....when they are chucking a rapala in the fly fishing only section of the stream. Follow the rules, you outlaws. > So anyone that supports any inclusion of the crossbow is an outlaw in your eyes?

Solon, This forum is very good. A lot of guys have very good input. The stocking prices of fish have gotten pretty high compared to where they were before the certification requirement the DEC imposed. There have been quite a few of the guys that have gone belly up.....pun intended. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php

What tags are you using? Mine don't have a spot for any time. Are you really a New York hunter?

Can't wait until life slows down a bit. I really want to get back into traditional. Practice time seems to be at a premium lately. Was always fun having a little friendly competition with buddies .....we use to play a game like hose in basketball...lol...the prize...braggin rites until the next outing

Lol, rats! Maybe I'll just get a Playstation and a few games myself for this season. If it's any consolation, I didn't vote against it. :-\ P Take the the playstation and put it in the woods a mile or so from you to draw the little s'not nosewannabees away from your spot.............wait.........nevermind....that would be baiting...

My mother was only 5'-3" and about 120# but she use t tell me and I quote- "Always remember, You have to go to sleep sometime"....funny thing was...I knew she meant it...lol

my 14 year old at 6'4" , 235lbs pulls a 60lb bow and I make sure he is sighted in up to 25 yards and he darn well knows not to shoot pass that or else he'll deal with me, lol Npt sure how big you are Stretch...but you might want to get a couple A$$ whoppins in while you can...lol

has to be over 35# to be legal

for me it was an introduction though Boy Scouts earning my archery merit badge. The target shooting was ok...but the real fun was using that old 35# long bow and blunt tip arrows to go around the woods course shooting 1 gallon milk jugs hanging from strings to simulate hunting conditions. kind of a 3D course before they got popular. up hill, down hill, across the creek kneeling under a pine. It was fun and I was hooked.

</blockquote> You're joking right? Turn on the Outdoor Channel, espn,MSN, YOUR LOCAL NEWS...... Our kids are being programmed to what this world is today and has gotten away from the way it was. If that's cool with you, it's ok with me too.....let'em watch and learn from there. Yup, I'm all about me. Me, me, me.... Wake up fellas, if you want to hunt in a playground that's your choice. In 2 yrs I'm not asking for all that much difference in mental maturity but a little more than what's being proposed. What's the friggin rush. The last thing these kids have on their minds is the need to fill a freezer to supply for their futuristic families correct. By that time they'll have bigger concerns than how to kill a deer. I don't care either way, but believe me when your seasons are infringed upon, I'll be the last to listen to the boo-hoo BS of little boy blue my hunt. :'( Are you in favor of taking the ability to gun hunt small game away from them and raise that age?

I think we should get our kids out as early as possible to expose them and teach them about our sport. Let's face it....on a blink of an eye we may not be around to do it. Our sportis very safe relative to every thing else they do. Do I want 12year olds wandering around unattended..probably not...but I am sure there are ones that could. This regulation is not about unsupervised kids being out there. I don't have a horse in this race but I would haveloved to had this opportunity growing up

I would pass. I do have to admit that once I did put on a finishing shot to a wounded doe we were tracking that tried to get up 10 yards in front of me. It was past the legal time. Plenty of light but not legal. It was many years ago but I would probably do that agian rather than see her suffer or be eaten by yotes.

Perfectly said G-man

Now you can't tell me in all your years as an instructor, you've never come across an incompetant individual or two who'd have done best to stay away from the sport, but still got their certificate....? : there are 50 year olds like this out there...do we take away their ability to participate?