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Went dove hunting a few times in Alabama, and they arent kidding when they said they were difficult to hit. Though I dont think we have quite the population of birds the south has.

I would say that law is in line with about have the garbage that seems to seep out of that state.

Thanks for the info Agross, My local agway has what I call a foodplot center in it. They have just about all the food plot seeds you could think of in bulk priced per pound so I think I might add a couple pounds of buck wheat or chicory to whatever concoction I come up with. I think I am going to push my food plot back to august, and just stick with kill plots. There is plenty of forage around for them to eat in the local fields. I will spend the time till then working on the soil and weed killing in my two plots. As far as cutting down trees gos thats a no go. Though I have been trying to get my uncle to log all the trees of the hill he is not going to. My rape plot I planted 2 yrs ago did great its 1st yr. As soon as it frosted it they ate the whole thing down to the dirt in a week. Pic below. I have 6 deer that regularly walk this trail on my trail cams all the time so whatever I plant needs to be able to regenerate itself or it will be a waste of time because it will be gone before deer season gets here.

Im considering trying oats again. I got ahold of a tiller so I might actually be able to plant it at the right depth this time.

Nice, that one looks like he has you pegged.

Good info thanx.

Not the most nutritious stuff in the world but for a small less than an acre kill plot how much nutrition are you going to give them anyhow. And anything that tastes good in a small plot will be eaten quickly. The winter rye or annual rye will grow back as long as they dont pull it up by the roots which I have had happen. And from some articles ive read get the hybrid ( tetraploid) versions to. It will get the does and fawns in front of you and hopefully a buck will be following. Just dont use a perenial rye, fesc, orchard, or bluegrass unless you want problems. Oats and wheat are much better but I have had problems getting it going good in small low light plots on logging trails because of the ph requirements. Winter rye is nice because its cheap and it would grow on a rock, though it grows better with proper PH and fertilizer. Plus I beleive Oats and wheat need to be planted 1 1/2 deep as rye can just be spread on top and soil lightly raked over the top of it. http://www.whitetail...nt/ryegrass.htm http://www.whitetail...erealgrains.htm

Got to love it.

how bout westend archery? http://www.westendarchery.org/West_End_Archery/Welcome.html

Would have to agree with splits, Im not much for the baged mixes. And throw and grow it is not. You still need to prep, lime and fertilize the seed bed pretty good to get good germination. And with the crazy mix they have with secret spot you have small seed and big seed that need to be buried at different depths for best results. I would use some brassicas but do not depend on them to hunt over. On a plot that small they will wipe rape out in a few days and turnips they wont touch till the snow flys. I have always had really good luck with winter rye and oats planted fairly heavy on small plots or logging trails. I know everyone here hates rye but the results speak for themselves imo. If you are in a highly agriculteral area rye probably wont work but in the hardwoods I dont think you can beat it. The deer usually keep it pretty low and it comes back up quickly in the spring to giving the deer something to eat and dies off when it gets hot. Oats will freeze and die also. I would like to try some chicory to see if it would grow.

Out for 4 hrs tonight in the rain, still cannot find the rock he hid the other half under yet.

I owned 3 of them, one in 25-06, 270., and 223. None of them shot great ( prob 3in groups at 100 yrds) but good enough to kill deer at close ranges. I always just used remington corlocs.

Anyone know what the light requirement is for buckwheat. This plot is in the woods but will get 4 hours of direct sunlight and 2 hours of filtered light before the sun gets to low to shine on the plot.

So how did you do?

Doc this is not the place to be trying to show up John Holmes. This is a family forum. They have other forums for that. Though I have to say its quite impressive. ROFLMFAO

Was thinking of growing some buckwheat in my new plot till August then tilling it under and planting brassicas and winter rye. Any thoughts on the buckwheat?

I hear that, Ill let them chase there stupid turkeys. Ill be back after it as soon as the season is over.I cant help myself!!!

I guess he makes 16

Dont play with them to much you might go blind err, I mean poke yer eye out. Get out any lately?

Was he hunting with a guide?

I have had several AK's and have not been very impressed with them. Now I dont know alot about a personel building of AK's but the imports are pretty much crap and are just for pray and spray situations. Nothing funner than taking two 30 rounders and taping them together, slapping them in crankin back on the old charging handle and rockin and rollin. Not very accurate but fun. The AR's are alot more accurate imo. Use to shoot open sights out to 300 yrds ( m16a2) in the army and do pretty good, only failed to make expert once because of a bad mag that kept jammin and eating up my target time.

Hear, Hear !!!

Stupid law. There would be alot of people on here that had tickets coming to them if that was a law in NY.

They seem to be working on that because it changes all the time. I would come back ever so often and check it again.

My ten yr old daughter had one of the boys in her class room smack her butt and my wife, his parents and the principle had a come to jesus meetin in the principles office the next day. My wife looked like a rabid dog yelling at his parents and by the time we left the mom and the kid were bawling. Apperently word got around because the boys dont bother her anymore. And a few of them got moved to other classes. You can get things done when you threaten to kill and bury peoples kids where they will never find them if they even look at your daughter again.