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Second pic closest ear has a tag turned around with the white facing you so its hard to see. I wouldn't say poached but used someone elses tag which is almost as bad.

The competition involved is in another whole batch of additional lottery participants. It's just like any lottery, more participants means more chances to be rejected. From a bowhunter's standpoint those odds are significantly higher than they are right now. For the gunners, they too may see some extra rejections because of the bowhunters and muzzleloaders selection success. The fact that it is a "lottery" means there are some losers. I have yet to see any kind of lottery (including the DMP drawing) where everyone is accepted. And also, you are ignoring what has become a traditional over-rejection rate with the now-usual freebies that don't become available until the lottery has ended. Typically that happens at a date that would be well into bow season. So yes, just like any lottery there is competition with winners and losers. And unfortunately the bowhunters are left out of some of that as I just explained. Its called picking who gets DMPs for that area that year. A good point was made about it earlier in the thread, gun hunters have always had to deal with the chance of not getting DMPs. Why shouldnt bow hunters have to? I hunt with a bow but I don't, just hunt with a bow. I also hunt with muzzleloader and shotgun. I think this describes about 99% of people who hunt with a bow. I can never understand this Bowhunter vs Gun hunter thing going on. I consider myself a hunter not just bow or gun or crossbow for that matter. Nother question, So even if I shell out the extra money every yr for a super sport, from what I understand, you will no longer get the extra either sex muzzleloader/bow doe tag. Even though I havent hunted turkey or small game and only get out to fish a few times a yr and pretty much waste money on these features that helps fill the DEC coffers. Seems like the DEC will be shooting themselves in the foot on this one. Why spend the extra money if you arent atleast guranteed to get atleast one doe tag. Its bad already you shell out 10 dollars for a chance at a doe tag and even with two choices you might not even get one of them and the money isn't returned. Hasn't happend to me yet but It sure would irk the living crap out of me if I forked over 10 dollars and didn't get anything for it. Around here we call that stealing. Besides how many people fill out all five tags? I think the most I have ever filled in a season is three. And I cannot recall ever killing two bucks in a season. It really doesnt make sense to me ( it is NY i guess) The DEC keeps complaining about not enough hunters and to many deer so they take tags away from hunters? Also the deer population is booming again around where I hunt. Ive seen three seperate doe around my area with three fawns already this yr.

I bought a realease one time that was missing the tension adjustment screw. I sent it back to the manufacturer and they returned it with one. I thought I had tightened it down enough and took it out to the back yard to give it a whirl. I got the bow pulled about half way back and the string released and caught me in front of my arm gaurd and my whole forearm turned a deep purple. Probably lucky I didn't die from a blood clot.

Great another predator to worry about snatching our kids out of the back yard. With all the Bears and Yotes around my daughter doesn't get to go outside unless im right there as it is. Now we have to worry about nomadic cats too, just peachy. I have an Idea lets clone a few Allosaurus Fragilis release them into the wild and see what kind of havoc they can reap to. Stupid environmentalists couldn't leave good enough alone, there's a reason they were trapped into almost extinction you know. >

I'm sure that motive does apply in some cases, but the guys that I have seen in full camo (including grease-paint on the face and hands) were in the middle of some very popular state land. So it definitely was not a tresspassing thing. Two of them were there on opening day when the hunter density is at its thickest. It's hard to imagine. My feeling is that anyone who would be so careless about their own personal safety, probably cannot be counted on to be worrying about mine. Very true

I was hunting state land last yr up around Candor. I had just got out of my car and was walking down a service rd when I heard a bunch of guys doing a drive to my right. ( sounded like a bunch of monkeys the way they were yelling ) I continued down the road since I wasn't planning on hunting the side of the road they were on and it was still quite a way to the trail I was taking. About 10 minutes into walking I realized I was walking in the same direction the drivers were walking when I noticed some orange up ahead who I guess were the standers. Just then a loud camotion to my right broke out and just as I turned there was a fat doe running right for me. I jumped behind a tree and gritted my teeth waiting for the lead to start flying but they never shot and I didn't stand around long after that to find out if they would. Another time I had suck into a thick spot on my Grandpas land and Had set down for a short hunt. After about 20 min I noticed movement in front of me that got my attention. A brown blob was moving tword me. When it was 50 yrds away I noticed it was a hunter in camoflage, tresspassing. I stood up and confronted him yelling he was tresspassing and he took off like a shot back the way he came. Just doesn't make sense not to wear orange during deer season and it has been my experiance that most people who do not wear orange do so, so they can take liberties with other peoples property. I'm sure the fine upstanding individuals on this site who do not wear orange don't do that but that has been my experience with the majority of people I know who do not where orange.

It's the risk we take everytime we head into the woods. I'm not to worried about the bullet with my name on it, can't do anything about that one, its the one with whom it may concern that bothers me. Every time someone shoots in the woods during deer season that bullet could be coming toward you and in rifle country it could be from a long way away. Doesnt matter if your in a stand or on the ground if the bullet is ment for you it will find you.Thats why I like to lean up against a big tree when I stop walking and hope im on the right side of the tree. Ive had people on state land blaze away at deer when I lived down in Loiusiana. You can use semi auto and 30 round clips down there and everyone has a sks to hunt deer with. I had a deer come running between me and some other guy that was about 100 yrds away that I never even knew was there. I passed on the small buck and he opened up on it. Luckely I had employed the stop behind a big tree tactic and I heard the bullets wizzing through the trees to my right. You never really relize how loud a bullet impact is untill it is hitting things around. I started yelling at the top of my lungs and the shooting stopped. Never even saw the guy he must have beat feet. I try not to think about it to much, just keep safe and wear orange. If you think about it to much you wont have your head in the game and youll miss easy deer while your scanning 360 deg around you looking for orange.

Over hunted, lots of hikers, and people practicing with guns during the bow season. Its a small patch of land only about 300 acre's of the 500 are actually huntable. And when the snow fly's the entrance hill is a death trap. Slid the 200 yrds down hill once and never went back in the snow. Besides that its a really pretty way to get to a tag sandwich

Nice pics, but you edited the leg right off one deer

Finally got the new kisser and put it on. Readjusted a few things and did some more tuning and got the bow shooting super sweet. I'm now shooting fast enough that I only need one pin all the way out to like 25 yrds.

I think the whole DMP system is stupid any ways. I havent drawn a DMP for 7s for the last 2 yrs and thats where I live and hunt mostly. I have only got 7R DMPs and have to drive and hr west to try and fill them on underpopulated stateland. I sat there last yr and had 13 doe standing in front of me on private land in 7s and no doe tag. The DEC complains about to many deer and not enough hunters and then cuts doe tags and has the audacity to raise my license fees also. What a crock of snot.

Holy crap thats an awesome collection!!

Could have been from a susquahanok also. They were scrapping with the Iroquois for a long time and right where I live the two territories come together along with the Delaware to.

Interesting article from wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois From this, the points could be from any multitude of tribes because of the Iroquois practice of integrating there captured enemies into there tribes to replace war losses. " "It has been a constant maxim with the Five Nations, to save children and young men of the people they conquer, to adopt them into their own Nation, and to educate them as their own children, without distinction; These young people soon forget their own country and nation and by this policy the Five Nations make up the losses which their nation suffers by the people they lose in war." By 1668, two-thirds of the Oneida village were assimilated Algonquians and Hurons. At Onondaga there were Native Americans of seven different nations and among the Seneca eleven.[32]" And as close as the Mohican nations were to Broome county it could have been anyone.

I really don't see this as division, just chewin the fat. We could all get in a fist fight over this around the fire but come 6 in the morn. We would all pile in the truck and go hunting together. Thats what huntings all about.

My mom also found an Iroquois head on the american side of the saint lawrence river. It was in a sand pile and looked like it was just knapped and dropped there.This one is a true arrow head and is only about an inch long.

Hard to tell what it is really, even with the tip broken off it would have been almost 2 inches long and the closest thing I could find from the hundreds of picks would be a lamoka. Here is a site to an area down the road that they have found lamoka points at also. http://www.susquehanna-wd.com/iam_article_Vestal.html The spear point I havent really got a clue what it is. Its about 6 inches long and an inch and a half wide. It came in a dump truck load of dirt from somewhere along the Susquehana river. Its very old whatever it is. Ill try to get some pics up and see if anyone knows what it is.

No weed growth!! Sheesh id be suprised if anything grows in this weather, ground is hard as a rock, Im not even going to till the ground till I see some rain coming.

This spring while digging up his Tatter patch my Dad found an arrow head. I got a look at it yesterday and did some comparisons with other heads on the internet and found it wasnt an arrowhead at all but possibly a Lamoka atlatl head that could be around 2500 to 3000 BC old. He said he also found an spear head in the ditch in front of the house about 25 yrs ago and he would look around and see if he could find it. Im going to crap myself if its a clovis spear head. On a funny note my Mom told my Dad not to tell me what he found so I wouldn't be out there digging up the garden looking for them. Here's the closest pic of what he found.

Ive had a few run ins with the bears up there to. Had a bear follow me around during bow season one time which was no fun. What happened? Well I walked up on him and had the wind in my favor and it ran off. So I changed directions and hunted in the opposit direction. Well after 30 yrds of stalking I heard a noise behind me on the logging road and there it was about 50 yrds off looking at me. So i kept an eye over my shoulder and walked a little faster hoping the movement would scare it away. Well it just made him more curious and he ran toward me down the trail so I drew back and yelled at it. Well it stopped and just stared at me. So I let down and walked even fater back to me car with this little turd escorting me out to the last 100 yrds. Was sitting next to a tree about 3 yrs ago and had a very big bear walk right up to me ( 15 paces). I just pointed my front stuffer at his head and asked him what he wanted and he turned inside out the opposite direction. Another time I was getting ready to shoot a doe with the bow and before she got into range she took off like a shot leaving me there scratching my head. Well I hear this ruckus coming from the area and here comes a big old sow with three cubs in tow. I immediately stood up and backed up down a logging trail around a corner with her watching me the whole way. When she got out of sight I beat feet to the car. Another time I was picking chantrele mushrooms and had one come running up the hill to within 20 yrds of me to get a look at what was going on. I must have looked like a white streak running through the woods. To this day I have no recollection of the 500 yrds I ran to the road and no idea how I made it through all the thickstuff without killing myself. I must have looked like a wildman running through the woods.

My old bow I bought back in 98 so it was about time for a new one and I still hemmed and hawwed about it. I refitted it several times, but just got a great deal on this one I couldn't pass it up.

Ive had a few run ins with the bears up there to. Had a bear follow me around during bow season one time which was no fun.

I usually see at least 3-4 bears everytime I go out to the land I hunt in Kirkwood. They are a real pain in the butt because they have a knack to showing up and scaring the crap out of the deer evertime. I think they are drawn to the area because of all the Oaks on the property. Last yr watched several young ones rummage for hours under the oaks crunching away on Acorns. If I get one close this yr Im going to shoot it. Use to be like, a bear awesome !!! Now its like awe crap here comes another stupid bear. So my solution is shoot bear, make sausage, no more bear problem.

Used my gas money for next week to get a new Bisker Whisket today. Got the older type since they were cheaper and guess what , it works even better than the 70 dollar version. Lady at insight archery hooked me up and told me they all worked the same so I got it. Eye balled it for center shot as best I could and squared it up and shot an arrow through the paper with a slight right hand tear. Made some adjustments and the 2nd and 3rd arrows were bullet holes. Now my kisser button is broken. Its the kind that looks like a wheel with spokes. Half the spokes are broken, not sure how. Will go to a solid one. But if you see me walking the 25 miles to work please pick me up.

Another thing is, if more than half of the people who shoot deer in NY do not report there deer than what makes us think they will shoot three to a side?