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This reminds me of one of the satellite issues I've mentioned...or a broken spoke causing the wheel to wobble ,as it were...So many more on the horizon.

Yes there is a reason and I posted about it years ago..when leaving maples and a few other species that height and cutting just as they are having the sap return they feed young buds..which grow into young tender branches with nice tender leave food topiary ...note a stand in one picture..this has the deer feeding at head level stopping and even stretching out . Also this is a plot area ...I do not want hinged trees in a plot. Also walking along at eye level deer are not seeing a lot of change. They are still seeing the standing trunks. Now note those bigger ash trees across what is to be a trail plot...the rather large tops knocked over other smaller maples and dead ash causing some nice cover in the existing slashing....I have several hinged areas on my land..this area doesn't need that..They bed in the adjacent gully and the wind cover of those brush pile fences.

I'm one of those people that has a difficult time staying indoors...no matter the weather...as a kid I'd leave in the morning and come home for meals...as a teen when not at one of several jobs I'd leave and not be back until after dark... sometimes I'd walk from Piffard to Avon and back or Mt Morris...if on a bike All around Conesus lake and back or to wolf creek in Letchworth......The one thing I loved about living in a village is when Mr B and the kids went to bed I grab the dog a 11pm and walk a few miles around town,or hit the bike and ride a 7 mile route I mapped out. Winter was cross country skiing to the land and back. Always have had gardens...

Gag..gag.gag...cough..cough..Cough...yak..yak...phew sorry guys...I was trying to clear my throat of the words that were shoved in my mouth...Can any of you tell me when I have often used the term casual hunter on this site...or said Everyone is issued either or tags... yak yak... Why should this surprise me ? From people insisting on adding points to another person's buck so they feel good. Why not add words to their mouths as well...lol

WNYBH... You might want to mention to him, the either or tags people are issued.

So ...What was I thinking?! I went out with the leaf blower and removed more,not all, but more sheet moss in 5 mins than I did raking a half hour getting fiberglass splinters!...Anyways I cleaned the area up a bit and started to remove the leaf litter where the new plot will go...The trail plot will connect the plot, pic with deer in it(taken yesterday), to the green plot at the end...a bit over 100 yrds. The new plot will be adjacent to the end of trail plot...this should steer the deer to the center of our place or into the safety of the gully...Man do I have some rocks to contend with...the leaf blower ran out of gas and me time. I have business this afternoon so here are some progress pics...

I have to call a peacock alert on this page...lol

Rack Attack...He was a wise man, thus this will be my only response to any further post made by you..Thank you

Things some do not realize..... I do love the exception to the rules comments...If you were to take a real poll...you know like when guys actually purchase a license and reaching out to the LT holders...you may very well find many more "exceptions " than expected....PS don't come back with well % out of total population yada yada yada ...I know, thus why I worded as I did. Anyways even on this one site we have seen a long list of "exceptions" either shot or caught on cams.

You got me looking through pics on this...It really does seem bigger/more somehow...but being the only person doing these, from scratch as it were, I suppose that's natural...lol Will take some pics of area I'm working on now ...gotta hit the ground ,rains due and some heavy stuff for the next 2 days . That will change a few plans

Go get em Paula and may your feet stay dry and your line active...

I have to say over the years I may have forgotten more than some ever learn...I read tons but it's the things I apply I retain the best. Thus the many many jobs I've had over the years,businesses, internships and vocational schools. In all of it, it's the personal knowledge people have shown me that sticks out the most. This is one of them. I had a professor at Alfred that explained during one of our soil testing labs, one of farmers best tools were their noses. That before soil testing and labs were the places to go. His nose told him one of the most important things...PH. Now obviously they couldn't tell exact numbers but it did and does tell you what needs to happen on new ground before deciding what to plant and scheduling the season. He had various samples and had us go out and bring in samples to learn what he meant and gauge our findings in our actual lab testing...He did make our labs pretty fun. I have used this everywhere I have ever planted. One of the reasons I researched good low PH plantings that would still improve the soils but be able to uptake nutrients to benefit the animals.I do not attempt to reach a perfect PH in one shot. I prefer to build it. Time is key for lime takes time to change composition and additional lime in small amounts helps to maintain levels in certain soils and crop rotations. Ive mentioned over the years I always add a little lime each year in woodland plots...This until my nose tells me it's not needed. A very acidic soil will smell acidic when in doubt ,for a quick test mix soil with a bit of baking soda and a dash of water...it will bubble vinegar and water will cause alkaline soil to fizz. Though no definitive levels can be made with these. The less acidic the soils smell the higher the PH and when you can barely smell it or get just an earthy smell the higher near neutral it is. None of this replaces comprehensive testing ,that said, it can give you a head start on plans. Reduce time needed in what of course is a time sensitive activity. Here is a very good and very informative link some of you might enjoy. Slow down and go smell some soil... http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex6607

To be honest I doubt they all totally 4 acres. Maybe 5 with trail plots behind the house and this year's New additions. I still do some by hand. All prepping for this area is hand work ,saw,rakes,and leaf blower. Having inner woods small and trail plots are hard t o keep up with area seeing they rotate in and out of production.

We have 3 JD,Two big mowers and 35 hp. Why?

Man, what a great work day...just starting to dry up a bit and sunny..42 ,just warm enough to loose the jacket. Dropped a few bigger trees, and small ones with standing dead ash. What a pain those turned out to be. Brush pile fence is now head high.Tomorrow I take out the leaf blower on the new plot areas. What a difference in soils! I have one of my very first plots in this area the soils . are dark and are neutral too sweet in smell, perfect. The new areas are reddish grey with a bit of yellow under tone and just as acid smelling as it comes. Almost nose tingling. I know I'll have a lot of rocks under that leaf litter to deal with. I'm up to 22 bags of lime and it will take most of it for just this area to grow anything this year. I've waited many years to do this ,standing back and envisioning it has me pretty happy with the potential. So much work,like I needed more,but love it!. It needs to happen to counter somerecentand potentially new changes

Defrosted a chicken veggie soup I made and sandwiches.

Our camps been there since we first got married back in 1979 and the Family owned the land well before that. At one point the family owned the entire valley ...I had to call the DEC some years ago about a particular bad winter kill in those hills ,documented b by myself and SIL ..it's just in the last few years the tag #'s have come up a bit. I can also attest to the number of coyote that have come into the area and it is always a good bear area ... Now from Almond to camp and Alfred to camp I'd like to know where a bunch of farms have popped up...Yes from Almond to Hornell on the Kanakadea park rd you have some beef farmers but those pasture lands are nothing like crop farming...I could be wrong ...went college there, daughter went to university there. Mr B did the university construction work for years and a good many of the school jobs as well. Not as if we drove any of the roads...What that area does grow well is buckthorn. What they have logged on state land...I do not know..... but I most certainly know where when and what was logged on and around our camp over the past 15 years and white oak were hit hard. It has been in just the last few years we can look across the valley to see guys growing some food plots. All this said you proved my point... the land owners(that get doe tags) will have to wait out the bucks for sure. While they are waiting in that low density area ..They will be taking out the breeding population and I can tell you the biggest problem that area has is button buck kills so while these guys are shooting button bucks as doe ...AR's are NOT making things better.

Chas... glad I did too...Now I'm also glad you mentioned Culverts post...lets review shall we?: Now I believe ..he will have to confirm, if he's in Rush then that is 8H and NOT under the AR proposal but in a decrease #'s region. I am in a Decrease #'s with a good amount of multi point 1 1/2 yo. and a 4 to one side proposed area...2miles up the road is 8M an area where they are trying to decrease the herd #'s but with fewer doe tags than 8N. due to an over harvest issue some years ago. They are in a no AR area. 8X surrounded by areas they are trying to increase the herd ...trying to just maintain the herd numbers with fewer doe tags and they are in a AR zone. BTW high winter kills in this area. Alfred hills with little farming and nearly every area hit by loggers that took a main food source...wht oaks. The link shows the map I speak of...Then look at the original DEC roll out map http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37304.html http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/37304.html need to scroll to the bottom to see map. Now I know what I see for our areas in those two maps and the proposed legislation...I can't tell you what to see but look at it closely and think.

Lets try this DBH... Do you have any understanding of the phrase " taking stabs in the dark"? I'm pretty sure others here do. Thus my deliberate use of the term. BTW, I did read what he wrote, but let me refresh you: Take a mental note as to where your comments to others stemmed from in that paragraph. The bold and underline will tell you where mine did. Now try to draw a line from there to the " stab in the dark " comment I made. If you still can not understand I give up.

Not sure what the point of my correction " like" was buckmaster...Though that's not fully true...You should see the ones I catch before sending...such as guilted, the Kindle replaced it with , was violated. Here's the dumbest thing even the computers spell check does not recognize the word guilted, It has a red squiggly line under it.It is an old English term and one found in literature. The Kindle is fond of composing whole sentences when it doesn't like a single word. I won't bother posting the Urban nor Dictionary.com source They are mostly deemed irrelevant on this site. Here is a fine literary example of it. A read I recommend. Public apologies have become increasingly common scenes and representative moments in what appears to be a global process of forgiveness. The apology-forgiveness dynamic is familiar to all of us, but what do these rituals of atonement mean when they are applied to political and historical events? In his timely, topical, and incisive book A Guilted Age, Ashraf Rushdy argues that the proliferation of apologies by politicians, nations, and churches for past events—such as American slavery or the Holocaust—can be understood as a historical phenomenon. In our post–World War II world, Rushdy claims that we live in a “guilted age.” A Guilted Age identifies the two major forms of apologies—political and historical—and Rushdy defines the dynamics and strategies of each, showing how the evolution of one led to the other. In doing so, he reveals what apology and forgiveness do to the past events they respectively apologize for and forgive—and what happens when they fail.

Or...seeing people are taking stabs in the dark here,The kid could have just been saying what he thought others wanted to hear as an excuse as to why he shot a small racked buck. This after seeing or knowing of reactions to other people's perceived poor choices. Perhaps no one would have needed to be around to " talk him off the ledge" had he not been guilted from the get go? Just allowed to take a good clean kill shot on a legal deer. Perhaps the adults around him forced him into a lie ,in pretending to be upset to avoid " the looks" and passive aggressive comments to are inevitable from such people.

CHAS..it's pretty obvious I know it is 3-4 on one side. It is also obvious that I am not the only one in this discussion that has 5-8 +pts. 1 1/2 yr.old deer in their area... I think it may have been Phade that said he shot a,1 1/2 old 10pt as I recall.. That said..you proved my point ,thanks

Can't say for your area but stop into a nearby farm and say hi and ask where they go for their fertilizer..