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Parmesan chicken fingers with a butter milk ranch dressing,noodles with a fresh mushroom sauce,corn ,beets and a mixed green salad

Nice! But quick delete that last one...you could land another 30 pager on the site with that....

in bedded? lol .......embedded

Oh..I see now...nice looking gun hope they fit well together and he has a great season

That's my car..and Grampy...it would pull a boat . They had to be pretty popular for they are all over the pl a e in these Fingerlake hills.

I know...but I have to tell you reading this entire thread...I really have to say I get the impression...way too many do not realize, 1 1/2 yr olds develop more than 4pt's total.

LOL

So what did he get? I forgot to mention Flintlocks...I bought Mr B beautiful Cabela's some years ago...They were made I think in Italy

Oh please ask me ask me....I'd get out the charts from the QDM forum and look to see if that was 11/2 old buck or a 2 1/2 year old... Then not shoot it because it's illegal, knowing it really didn't make a difference anyways...because there were a whole bunch of 4pt's one side 1 1/2 's taken by others anyways. Oh mis spoke it's this chart http://www.outdooralabama.com/sites/default/files/FieldJudgingLiveDeer.pdf

So most of you know I have been a registered Democrat since the beginning...This to be able to use the primaries to vote for their lesser of two evils before the general election where I can vote for anyone..I always figured it was my best bet at attempting to afford my self the lesser of two evils should the elections not go as I hoped. Well today that changed...I got up and there was yet another ExspressoBuzz post. I'm a "hair that broke the camels back" kind of person...It really takes a lot to push me in some areas...he was that hair today. When I went to get the new DL I filled the change form... I can not be associated with such a group for any reason any more.

Oh I agree...for the most part this will just be back shelved in our memories to be pulled out as an occasional " remember when" post...As I have said, as far as hunting it won't really effect me. My issue was never the AR's themselves but the right to have hunting be the hunters personal experience and not others...but also the way it's happening. Because of the way it's happening I can see all the satellite issues that will eventually have an impact on me and other hunters as well. That's not so acceptable. I look at many issues as wheels... you have a hub(idea) and from that hub, spokes (other ideas that arise from the original) that lead to the Felloe's(hunters and others). When you have one or 2 bad spokes leaving that hub ...it can bend and harm the Felloe's...causing the entire wheel to wobble.I believe that is what this has the potential for.

Thanks....I some how needed that!...lol Though walking into the DMV, I had an Indian family in trouble latch on to me...The husband referred to me a "Miss" several times...All I could think was, wow! that's so much nicer than the mama I started getting in my late 30's... BTW I was having a better day than them... Here from Canada, 3 tiny little kids, and car confiscated and towed away by police....Their insurance with Gieco had lapsed...Went to DMV looking for help...none, then to me for advise. I honestly can't turn off that sign on my forehead that says ...Yes I will help everyone...lol So I went to town clerk and found out where all the nearby insurance offices are. Explained that someone there could tell them what needs to happen so they can go back to the police station with the paperwork and find out where the car was taken. Broken English, not their country and 3(rambunctious) little kids....I'll take old thank you very much! hahaha....

won't be long now....

Epsom salts....

Go to the Dr.s ..get a great check up.. to then be reminded "Well your old"... Then go to the DMV because you need to renew your drivers license and " Well they do that because your old ". Seriously? twice within an hour and just 5 days before my Birthday...LOL My greatest gift a sense of humor.... I may treat myself to a dye job.....

I have rakes with fiberglass poles...Wear gloves using older ones! I was raking moss off a new plot areas yesterday...I have a thing about gloves...just have a hard time wearing them even in cold weather , but especially while working...Well I'm raking away for quite a while when all of a sudden both hands are in quite a bit of discomfort and then out and out pain. Well that older fiberglass handle had given off minute slivers and in bedded them into the palms and fingers of both hands. I might as well have been rubbing fiberglass insulation between my hands....I'm hoping in a day or two they'll recover...for now it's very irritating... so there's a heads up tip...

Just read that link Stubby posted and I re-posted, that gives the answer right there....

Personally I still believe they were a done deal and still are for this year...I also believe that these and the AR are so closely tied together they might as well be on the same paper...deals, So the AR is a done deal as well...we'll see.

Grampy...... it's just about people pushing other peoples buttons now and having ,not the last word but, apparently the last nasty word...there should have been a swan song on this some time ago as I mentioned.

I read everything just fine thank you.. the context that it's said is important. so isn't the use of the word "critical". the deer herd as a whole and even in some areas isn't broken. DEC has published data that says yearling/young buck harvest is continuously going down. also that we have a 1.7:1 doe to buck ratio. it should be a big red flag if a biologist said buck to doe ratio is fine regardless of age structure. so in the context of their projection for the state as a whole it doesn't seem to be needed. however, no biologist should say that young bucks living isn't important from a biological perspective. DEC big game staff has gotten called out by national biologists for loosely using the words "no biological need". this isn't me simply pondering text on the internet. i've talked to Hurst the big game leader about it and seen DEC staff get called out. Hell, he himself sees benefits of antler restrictions. He voluntarily continues to hunt property that has had voluntary antler restrictions for well over a decade. notice it's all carefully worded as to not say there's no advantage or biological need at all. also the biologists don't see a specific benefit with the AR program given their outlook where things are going. yet DEC openly admits there otherwise are multiple management benefit to the AR program, such as "A majority of hunters in the pilot AR units prefer that the program continue (report they did on June 2011, after they'd been in place)". not posting this to really plead the case for this legislation, so much as provide food for thought. DEC's outlook and stance as a group is based on state averages. some areas do quite well with the stats to show it, while others not nearly as much. going back to the one size fits all approach doesn't work. it'd be ignorant to ignore ARs would help some WMU's a great deal, despite for others it probably wouldn't do a darn thing. hunter emotions are the only thing driving this to be a state wide thing. there's always a boarder to complain about no matter how far away. I won't bother getting into word semantics with you or pulling out the definition of critical... I see it would be pointless...Also I will not address the fact you personally speaking to Hurst means as much as hear say evidence in a trial. Some one here mentioned twists and turns and well that whole thing seemed to have initiated quite the twister. BTW the print in big bold and underlined...THAT has nothing to do with herd health...and I do not care how hard you try to spin it it doesn't change that fact.

DBH....I can't post quotes but you haven't seen one word....? Well it is in bright red script...back on page 6 in this thread Docs post. Also in an interview as I recall in the NYODN with Jeremy Hurst....Neither are hard to find.

I don't drink beer at all...I also look past the regulations hunting in pact and w t the spill over impact will be in other areas. Also in years to come...Thus the blinder comments I've made and I see are being proved out.

Yes they decide to roll out the let them walk Champaign instead. This because they saw no herd health benefit. The legislation did an end run as expected under constituent pressure not herd management...deals were made and favors promised and the DEC walked over...The a DEC won't take the hit as in the last plan though.